Simple solutions to school shootings

Sure I can.

Confiscate AR's? That's what it would have to take place to "insure" Crews or anyone else wouldn't have one in their possession.

I was thinking of having a law like that but just put on liberals when it comes to the right of free speech.

That pesky Constitution again.

Your decerebrate suggestion would "assist" in coming up with all the wherefores and whys after a shooting takes place. Good plan!

 

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (200, is a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held, in a 5–4 decision, that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and requirement that lawfully-owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee. Due to Washington, D.C.'s special status as a federal district, the decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment's protections are incorporated by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment against the states,[1] which was addressed two years later by McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010) in which it was found that they are. It was the first Supreme Court case to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for self-defense.[2]

The core holding in D.C. v. Heller is that the Second Amendment is an individual right intimately tied to the natural right of self-defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller#Issues_addressed_by_the_majority

Educate yourself, Kung.

 

I like some aspects of your second suggestion -- which could actually have the effect of making it much more difficult for creatures like Nikolas Cruz to get their hands on any kind of firearm in the first place! The unfortunate situation we've got is that there are huge numbers of people now who are essentially dangerously delusional, drug-addicted, and easily manipulated through 'social media'.

A lot of these people grew up during the horrible sixteen years of Idiot Bush and Idiot Obama. They're largely useless, dumbed-down, hopelessly ignorant, and often with no real ability even to support themselves. They just meander through life, constantly pawing on a 'smart' phone, exchanging fantasies and other wastes of time with their equally worthless little friends on 'social media'. They have few skills and typically can't get, or keep, a job above a menial-labor level.

But another "assault weapons" ban? This will produce nothing but a situation where, "When 'assault weapons' are outlawed, only outlaws will have 'assault weapons'". So, what should we do ? Try something like you suggested in your Number 2 item -- focus on the PERSON, not the GUN. We need to identify, isolate, and REMOVE the monsters among us before they commit crimes! That would be far more effective in combating mass-murders than all the gun bans you can think of.

 

Is that a liberal way of making firearms owners the criminal and the firearms thieves the victim?

On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in Heller v. District of Columbia.[3][4] The Supreme Court struck down provisions of the Firearms Control Regulations Act of 1975 as unconstitutional, determined that handguns are "arms" for the purposes of the Second Amendment, found that the Regulations Act was an unconstitutional ban, and struck down the portion of the Regulations Act that requires all firearms including rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

Simply locking your house is due diligence, assuming you don't have any little kids around.

 

The shooting was not a result of not enough gun laws or gun bannings it was a result of a failure of law enforcement and school and local officials.

 

Was the weapon used here stolen? Was it unsecured?

 

How do you know that Cruz couldn't have gotten any gun he wanted in spite of some assault weapons ban? You don't know that at all. You're just speculating in total ignorance like nearly all liberals do. You guys are always blowing around this propaganda about how we just need to get rid of guns. Sure, fine. And then only criminals will have guns! Wake up!

 

I don't like the idea of having to register guns but I dislike the idea of the liberals taking our guns away even more. And that is the real agenda here just like always. Every time there is some big shooting the first thing that they do is start screaming for more gun control. I also think that we should focus on the ones who are very likely to commit crimes of violence and get them somewhere they can't harm anyone. We would probably have to have a method of verifying a person's sanity and fitness to own a weapon. That wouldn't stop criminals but it would be a tolerable first step.

 

Isn't it a bit obvious that "their" was written as "thief" in error?

 

How does it feel to be brainwashed? You got everything wrong.

It is the NRA and Conservatives that have been pushing for realistic school security with armed guards. It is the Left that insists on GUN FREE ZONES. Every mass shooting except the Giffords' shooting was in a GUN FREE ZONE. You would think the Left would catch on that GUN FREE ZONES only invite shootings.

There are over 300 million guns in the U.S.; a LOAD of them are not registered. So, want to ban and confiscate? I think it was Massachusetts that tried that a couple of years ago with "assault weapons". Very few turned them in and a lot of police officers refused to turn them in. Good luck with that.

But, still, you will want to try banning guns. As a test, why don't you try banning heroin and cocaine? What? That didn't work? Why not, you passed a law, didn't you?

The last time I checked, there were over 700 firearms manufacturers in the World; most of them are outside the U.S. If we cannot stop thousands of tons of illegal drugs from being smuggled into this country every year, what makes you think we can stop guns from being smuggled in?

I might also remind you that it was Liberals that took apart the mental health system in this country. I remember back in the early 70's when they closed down a big facility north of here in Elgin, Illinois. It was the beginning of the homeless problem.

How do you cut down ILLEGAL trafficking in guns with registration? You Lefties can't even get the terms right. Just like guns, there are a lot of stolen cars and unlicensed drivers. We deal with it as best we can. Maybe we should ban cars.

 

There were already two armed security personnel at the school. It is not clear why they failed to stop the attack. The practical reality is that at a large school it is going to take a while for security to arrive.

 

When was the last time you read about a state or federal lawmaker's kid getting shot up at school? maybe they know the solution, but aren't telling us?

 

Or maybe the go to private schools where shooters can't get access to.

 

It matters because there is no mass killing via a knife, and very very few mass killings compared to guns with vehicles or any other thing in your list.

It matters because schools are where we send kids to learn, not be killed.

 

Guns is not 'the' problem, but is a vital part to the problem.

 

or maybe they go to private schools because chronic disciplinary problems are hastily shown the door...

which is not generally the case in government schools...where one is required to nibble a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun before administrators drop the hammer.

(isn't that a curious disparity in threat assessment protocols!)

 

Hooray, you got 2 in history. Were things changed as a result of those killings?
Now how many mass shootings can you name? And to make it easy on you, just include schools.

 

What is the difference between me shooting you in the face and killing you with a AR then turning around and killing someone with a 9mm in the face? There is zero difference. That is why any assault weapon ban is stupid and will not work

licensed and registered?? Ok I'll just go steal one there go it isn't registered to me.

 

or maybe they go to private schools because chronic disciplinary problems are hastily shown the door...

which is not generally the case in government schools...where one is only required to nibble a Pop Tart into the shape of a gun to spark panicked administrators into action...

Do you actually have any evidence to support those claims? Most schools in the US are government. Private schools self select their customers. I am not sure discipline is actually stricter in private schools, but many of the problem cases are in any cases excluded from them. If you picked the top 2 percent of public students to attend public schools and excluded the rest there would be little violence or discipline problms there either

 

Remember when all the gun grabbers, including Obama, rushed to defend ('oppressed group' member) Clock-Boy for bringing what looked to all the world like an IED to school?

I bet they won't do that anymore....or they shouldn't, anyway....

you know, if protecting school kids from violent deaths is really what they're after (and not JUST gun bans, as I suspect)

 

The school wasn't a gun free zone. There were armed guards

 

Yeah.

You're lumping in all the "minority" gun violence which skews and spins the number(s).

If you take away minority murders, we're right about the middle of all combined European countries.

 

Link, please.

 

Yes its all the teenager gang members killing off other teenager gang members in your liberal controlled cities

 

I haven't heard a thing about there being any armed guards there. If there were, they had to be sucking down donuts with Barney Fife.