Why do you use truthseeker like a perjorative? Yeah you know what, I do seek the truth. You don't? Are you not also a truthseeker? I ASKED MY LIBRARIAN. THEY CAN'T GET IT. How many times do you need to be told? My library is NOT a magical place I can go in and read any article from anywhere in the world I want... You read what they have on the shelf. Now, it is CLEARLY a fact that this stuff is NOT available for free.. You have to pay for it.. Or according to you my library can get it (do they not have to pay for it?) So... No doubt now that you NEVER had these articles to discuss, this thread was a dud from the get go. But I'm still interested, HOW is your skeptics mag different than Richard Gage's new DVD or book? Surely you could go to your library and demand they get you Gage's latest literature. Making it free for you? So care to address the point? How is this magazine NOT "snake oil" as YOU described it?
Wow, your library has no connections to the outside world or archives, and must rely on the periodicals that randomly appear on it's shelves? How very 19th century. I guess you'll just have to wait until the archive appears online, since you were to lazy to read it when I posted it. Price you pay, I guess. If Gage and company published their 'findings' in science journals or peer reviewed papers, you could indeed read them for free. My mistake in calling you a truthseeker. I should have put that in quotes.
Didn't say they have NO access to the outside world.. I said they don't go and get you anything from anywhere in the world and have access to ever single thing there is.. The title you are promoting is very obscure for this library. And no they don't appear randomly on the shelves.. They choose what they stock. You're talking nonsense.. This magazine doesn't post the current issue online.. They are JUST NOW bragging about getting the March/April issue online. Here go and read for free then: http://www.journalof911studies.com/ You've not explained why you use that as an insult.. Are you NOT a truthseeker?
What topic? The invisible "excellent research" that is unavailable and you can't even post yourself? You made a thread about these articles you said were oh so awesome and challenges to have it rebutted. But those articles are there? So what "topic" then are people trying to distract from? Incidentally, I find it amazing the lengths you go to in order to avoid addressing the hypocricy in the fact that you complain about people selling books and DvDs about what they think happened on 9/11 but you have no problem with your commission report publishers and your skeptical magazine doing the same thing and charging for their content. So you throw library red herrings, arguing with me about what my library can and can't do when you have no idea what my library is or even where I live.. What is the point? How does this CHANGE the idea of charging for content being the same? I guess that refutes YOUR OWN gripe about Gage selling a book, because I'm sure you must be able to go to your magic super library and requisition a copy for free, can you not?
It's apparent you haven't been to a library in quite some time. Oh, well... Take a walk to your local Barnes & Noble, or whichever big box bookstore serves your town. Have a read of the mag (which is still on the shelves) in one of their comfy chairs. I hope you come away enlightened. Why do you assume I use that word as an insult, 'truthseeker'?
Sorry don't have Barnes & Noble in this country that I live in.. So what bookstore should I go to instead? Also, you fail to address the point... Can you not enjoy Gage's latest literature at YOUR local bookshop? What, did you mean it genuine when you say "silly truthseeker"??? You really think I look for the truth in earnest which is why you put "truthseeker" in quote marks?!?!??! hahahahahahahhaha
Go reread the thread.. Page 1.. It's YOUR thread as it happens about Gage asking for more income. I said who cares about it.. You said "how much does the truth cost" implying like it's wrong to charge for it. I said that's what the 9/11 commission report publishers do in the BOOKS that they sell. We were talking about BOOKS.. Go back and revisit. Your response? :
You're completely missing the point.... You can't on the one hand excuse YOUR mates who sell baseless crap for profit on account of you can go sit in a comfy chair and freeload off your local bookseller to enjoy it, while at the same time whining about Jones or whoever selling baseless crap books for profit.. Again I'll ask you time number FOUR, can you not ALSO go read Gage's crap for free at your local bookstore?
Gage has no books. He appeals for money on the internet and youtube. I have looked at his materials in depth, just as i have looked at Griffin's and Jones' etc. Skeptical Inquirer does not publish 'baseless crap'. They source everything they publish. Which you would know if you could be bothered to look into it. Your opinion and mine are at odds. Oh, well.
Books, DvD's what does it matter? How am I supposed to know how brilliant your skeptical inquirer crap is? They haven't posted it online yet.. They're still just now getting round to posting March/April issue. The current issue is for paying subscribers and/or bookstore freeloaders. All their stuff is sourced, huh? Well I guess if true that makes them leaps and bounds ahead of the 9/11 commission!
Apparently, so is whining about other people charging for literature while promoting magazine subscriptions yourself.
No, you didn't reccommend anyone buy the magazine.. All you did was made a thread about the magazine, devoted to the magazine, telling us about how much "excellent research" it contains, even posting a pic of the cover of the magazine, just like Barker's beauties gesturing towards that fancy new blender you can win on The Price is Right. Even if you're not promoting the magazine, why do you not have equal condemnation for people trying to sell magazines about 9/11 including your skeptic friends? I thought charging for stuff was wrong.. "snake oil salesman" as you put it.. But it's alright so long as you like the fragrance of the snake oil.
Missing jet engines, explosive residue, missing black boxes (first time in the history of monitored commercial aircraft), buildings falling at near free fall speed, evidence cloked under the vail of state secured secrecy, aint UFO, psychic BS. Not until all evidence about 9/11 is revealed by the US government, will the truth be known. All reports issued since 9/11 about 9/11 terrorist acts by the US gov are pure BULL(*)(*)(*)(*)
It's already been shown that you don't know anything about Griffin's stances except what you have read on the internet. "In depth" is "inaccurate". Quote something out of one of his publication, page number...you know....something specific. You won't and you can't, because you haven't.
