Slow the Testing?

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  1. Pants

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    There shouldn't be mandatory tests of employees working at meat packing plants? Nursing homes? Hospitals?
     
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    Can the corona get on you from a meat wrapper?
     
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    I doubt they counted me more than once. The accurate test requires a 2day wait. The 1 hour test is only 68% accurate, so they give it twice to improve accuracy. I had both before surgery.
     
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    If required for a specific position, the person has the option of not working there, just the same as drug testing.

    For anyone not working at a particular environment, testing is voluntary. It is not government mandated.
     
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    I have not suggested a government mandate.
     
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    When certain places of employment become 'hot spots', you don't think its important for all to be tested? In the case of the meat packing plants, they were able to track the areas where the trucks delivered, via cell phone. Each one of those areas was now exposed to the virus through that truck stop.
     
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    Trucks gotta run or there will be mass starvation. Cows gotta be killed and butchered or people will be protein deprived and children stunted in their growth. Meat packers gotta work or they can't pay their bills.
     
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    And this is the reason you think they should not be mandatory tested?
     
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    At least be sincere with your suggestion that meat processing plants stay open. There is a shortage in the US, but exports to China have skyrocketed...
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-dwindle-exports-to-china-soar-idUSKBN22N0IN
     
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    As far as I can tell, the only people against widespread testing are Trump and his supporters. Trump is stupid enough to think that lack of testing equals less infection. It's like refusing to look at your speedometer because you've gotten too many speeding tickets (I don't take credit for that, I heard it somewhere and think it's a good analogy).
     
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    That's because the xxxxxxx congress allowed the xxxxxxx Chinese to purchase USA meatpacking plants, all of Smithfield foods for instance.

    The US congress works against the interest of the American people.
     
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    The right fell all over itself yesterday asserting that Trump was joking on Saturday night when he said he asked his people to slow down the testing. And even if I believe that - that it was a joke - I'm certain that the families of over 100,000 Americans who've died from the virus didn't think it was funny.
     
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    It's an expense the USA does not need now, but it helps statisticians. At least it doesn't hurt anything.
     
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    Hmmm - do you have anything to back up that claim? A quick search on the subject revealed this:

    Experts in Washington and on Wall Street had expected the deal to get the nod from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), an inter-agency executive branch panel that examines foreign investment for potential threats to national security.

    Shuanghui’s bid, which aims to satisfy China’s growing appetite for pork, stirred concern about food safety and domestic pork supplies among some U.S. politicians and faced review by a committee of several government agencies overseen by the Treasury Department.

    Although Congress cannot approve or block deals, lawmakers can force companies to abandon their merger plans. They did so in 2005 when China’s CNOOC Ltd made an unsuccessful bid to buy U.S.-based Unocal for $18 billion.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ion-by-chinas-shuanghui-idUSBRE98513I20130907
     
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    The company was founded by Joseph Luter & Son in Smithfield, Virginia, in 1936. It is now a wholly owned subsidiary of WH Group of China, aka Shuanghui Group, which purchased Smithfield Foods in 2013 for $4.72 billion.

    Bad, real xxxxxxx bad and stupid way for the US to do business.
     
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    What does that have to do with your original claim that it was the fault of Congress?
     
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    Congoress would not have allowed China to do the buyouts they have been xxxxxxx the USA with in 1950, would they.

    Congoress was generally still on the side of the American people then.
     
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    I might be able to follow better if your post wasn't filled with xxxxxxx.

    You stated,
    "That's because the xxxxxxx congress allowed the xxxxxxx Chinese to purchase USA meatpacking plants, all of Smithfield foods for instance. The US congress works against the interest of the American people."

    I provided a link to show that wasn't true. So, again, can you provide a link to support your assertion that it was Congress that allowed the Chinese to purchase Smithfield?
     
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    All the testing shows is how widespread the herd immunity is becoming.
     
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    So it was the Supreme Court and Obama who allowed the sale of Smithfield? Some part of the US government was in control of it or the USA has been in anarchy for some time now.
     
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    Okay - so you have no justification or proof to support your claim that it was Congress who allowed it to happen. Thank you for admitting that you just throw sh!t against the wall, seeing what will stick. I'll keep this in mind in future threads.
     
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    And you didn't respond to the rest of the post, though you made assumptions about my position on the subject.
     
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    You mean this suggestion?
    "If required for a specific position, the person has the option of not working there, just the same as drug testing."

    My comment was suggesting that certain places - as I listed - should have mandatory testing. Because of the nature of the position or when their workplace becomes a hotspot. But your comment suggests that there might be employees that don't want to be tested. Is that correct? And if they don't want to be, they can refuse and leave? Do I have that right?

    I don't think that there are employees NOT wanting to be tested. And, really, it isn't about their place of employment as much as it is about the community surrounding it, in which they live. If someone is working at a meat packing plant that has become a hot spot, unless they live at the plant, they are exposing everyone in that community. So yes, testing should be mandatory in that case.

    In the case of nursing homes - in which my mother currently resides - it is vital for the staff (and residents) to be tested. They are living outside those walls and could bring the virus to the facility. The residents are just helpless victims in that case.
     
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    I haven't seen anyone against testing, where is your proof?
     
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