So Zimmerman couldn't just talk to Trayvon? (Common Sense discussion inside)

Why only put this on George? Why aren't you as critical of Trayvon? Was Trayvon a mute? Wasn't it just as much his responsibility?

 

Exactly and, the testimony shows that both Z and M were conversing until M initiated physical contact. Martin apologists know this so now, their story 'evolves' to give Martin a reason to jump Zimmerman claiming Martin thought Z had a gun.

 

I'm not sure. But he did tell the police, in at least one of the versions of what happened, that Martin attacked him when he reached into his jacket pocket to reach for his cell phone. It's obvious from the timing of the attack that Martin thought Zimmerman was going for a weapon.


but then again, in another version, Zimmerman claimed he never even got out of his truck, and Martin was circling his truck reaching into the back of his pants repeatedly and then grabbed him and dragged him out of the truck. It's kinda hard to tell what actually happened when he was changing his story very drastically on a weekly basis.

 

I have never read of that account, do you have a link?

 

Evidence-wise, I would disagree with you because Martin was dead so nobody can accurately guess what he thought during the initial confrontation since he never had the chance to testify.

Common sense-wise I think you bring up one of a number of believable possibilities. If Martin thought Zimmerman was going for a gun, he was justified in defending himself. It's a logical assumption, but we also could make assumptions all day long.

The verdict was correct, because the prosecution failed and Zimmerman's story held up mainly because nothing existed (like Martin being able to testify or multiple eye witnesses who saw the whole thing) to discredit his statements. It doesn't mean everything he said was true, but you couldn't convict him on what was presented by a pretty bad prosecution.

 

You're right in that he did not tell the exact same story every time. I thought maybe the event was possibly traumatic so he didn't remember everything clearly the first day or so. I've seen this happen with people that I know.

I'm not making excuses for Zimmerman, but I could see the nature of what happened affect someone's memory of events.

 

No one changes their story that much out of trauma.

One time he says he got out of his truck and tracked Martin down, and Martin confronts him over it, and then attacks him when he reaches for his phone, and then another time, he doesn't even leave his truck and Martin starts circling his truck, making threatening gestures. That isn't small changes that can be attributed mental trauma. That's completely changing the story.

 

...........Martin's own testimony at the trial of course

 

but but but.........that was Martin's testimony at the trial

 

and this, of course, was Martin's testimony, or at the least, his statement at the scene of the shooting. Where's you source/cite

 

and of course all of this was revealed at the trial...........................
I think I'd like to see proof of those statements.............both of them cite or source.......and the corresponding statements from the trial. Cite sources only. For this, I want to see the evidence and actual statements, not your opinion

 

I don't see it so much as changing his story as it is simply describing a sequence of events. The two descriptions are not contradictory given that one event occurred after the other. What am I missing here?

 

.............not much

 

I wonder about that myself. It may illustrate just how corrupt the FL cops are when it comes to young blacks, as it's possible he did just that, and they are the only ones who can cover that kind of thing up.

More likely that Martin just thought Zimmerman was a mugger out to kill him, which, in fact, he was. He tried to run away but Zimmerman caught up with him and then shot him out of hand as he pleaded for his life. There was no time for him to call the police.

 

opinion or cite the source..........

 

You have to love the pure speculation.

 

speculation, facts not in evidence or cite your source

 

According to Zimmerman's story Martin circled his truck before he got out of it to follow, right? That's not really contradictory because each event (the circling, then getting out of the truck) happened at different times.

 

Oh some act like his stories change so much its like two different versions and I have just come to the conclusion its manic hope for whatever reasons. Even the cops said peoples stories are never the same twice UNLESS THEY ARE LYING, but some can really brush all that off to fit their agendas, and thats scary.

 

You did miss that.. He spilled his guts to the Cops that picked him up. that's what he told them.

 

No....that's not opinion, its an outright, made upended to meet an agenda, lie

 

So throwing the bird makes a person supect to do violence?


What about this teenagers' picture? What does THIS teenagers' picture incite?



Or THESE teenagers?

 

Oh I love this! ".....it is clear that Martin FELT!!!!!!!!! Zimmerman was going for a weapon...." Oh Dear. IMO 'it is clear George was reaching into his jacket to offer 'T' a mint'. I wonder why it is that virtually every 'T-Boner' here feels compelled to put up silly nonsense? It never ends. How do you know how 'T' FELT? Did he send you 'decoder ring' messages? Wake up and stop being silly.

 

Daggdag is correct. YOU are speculating. get over yourself and face facts.

 

So now you personal integrity is on the line. Put up a link to prove George stated any such BS. You can't. How pathetic.