So Zimmerman couldn't just talk to Trayvon? (Common Sense discussion inside)

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  1. Snappo

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    Trayvon attacked Zimmerman because he hated gays and thought Zimmerman was gay. Maybe Zimmerman was a bit fat and TM thought he was hiding some KFC.......
     
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    Its supposed to be funny that these two people more than capable of having children, are talking and profiling someone as gay and a cracka. Its ok and cute and childlike, think bullying or teasing, but if George rightfully identified him as someone up to no good, he should die.
     
  3. JavisBeason

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    Except the neighbor that testified to that (and that testimony has been cited of of. Com NUMEROUS times)

    So again, I will say, just because you don't like the established facts of the case, does not mean we are trolling, it means you need to educate yourself to the basics before jumping into adult conversations.
     
  4. RPA1

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    Jeantel's testimony...starting with M....

    "He said, "Why are you following me for?", and then I heard a hard breathed man come and say "What are you doing around here?".


    Martin never replied....After that, Mr. Good testified to seeing the 'tussle' where Z was on the bottom and M was beating Z 'm/m' style.

    Seems Martin wasn't really into 'talking sheet' but beating the 'sheet' out of Z.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/26/judge-in-trayvon-martin-case-weighs-police-calls/
     
  5. Daggdag

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    From what Zimmerman told police, in a police report, Martin attacked because he thought Zimmerman was going for a gun when he put his hand into his jacket. This was after demanding to know who he was and why he was being followed.
     
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    Source please.
     
  7. JohnnyMo

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    I enjoy reading some of you folks twist these stories to suit your concocted cahcah. :clapping::clapping:

    I'm not harassing you, I'm trying to get a couple of you to tell the truth.
     
  8. JohnnyMo

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    Nobody testified to seeing anything or anyone at the T. I have educated myself about this issue and suggest you do the same.
     
  9. Windigo

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    Asking for proof of statements that you already know are true isn't trying to get to the truth. Its harassment.

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    No they heard it. And that is more than anything you got.

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    At this point in time you can use google.
     
  10. JohnnyMo

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    Heard it from the direction of the T is not witnessing the attack at the T, has as been claimed. Let's go back to the the beginning of the exchange shall we.

    The eye witness who saw the assault occurring at the T has evolved to a witness testifying that she heard something coming from the direction of the T, is quite the adjustment.

    I don't claim to have anything.

    If you or others are going to present your opinion as fact, please state such. If you going to state facts be prepared to to back them with sources.
     
  11. Windigo

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    You cant be serious.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/witnessing
    wit·ness - a. One who can give a firsthand account of something seen, heard, or experienced

    >>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<<
     
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    What I said was........someone testifying that they heard something coming from the direction of the T is not the same as saying an eye witness saw the attack occurring at the T. Do you understand the difference?

    No reason to be insulting.
     
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    Got a quote and a link? Because that's nothing that I heard GZ say.
     
  15. Daggdag

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    The link is in an earlier post.
     
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    Your source doesn't put your claimed statements into GZ's mouth. If you have nothing else, you should withdraw your false claims.
     
  17. Daggdag

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    The report is quoting from a police report where the cop was speaking directly to Zimmerman
     
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    Where did you get "Martin attacked because he thought Zimmerman was going for a gun" and " This was after demanding to know who he was and why he was being followed"? It looks like you are just making it up and claiming that Zimmerman said it.
     
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    I saw the video where Zimmerman and a police officer went back to the development and re-traced what happened. I remember Zimmerman saying he was trying to shimmy his body away from the concrete while being slugged by Martin. He also said that he felt Martin going for the gun and he pushed his hand down and felt his gun, pulled it out and fired.

    Here is the full video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VakGZgJxTi4

    Zimmerman does say that Martin had his hand in his waistband while Martin was sitting in his car with the windows rolled up. Just before Martin jumped him, Zimmerman said he was reaching for his cell phone to call the police because he and Martin were face to face.
     
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    The report is quoting Zimmerman himself. What he told cops. When he was walking back to his truck, Martin confronted him, asking what his problem was. Zimmerman told Martin that he did not have a problem and that Martin was the one with the problem, and reached into his jacket. Martin attacked him when he reached into his jacket. That is all Zimmerman's words as told to a police officer, who wrote in the report that it was clear that Martin felt that Zimmerman was going for a weapon, and attacked to prevent it.
     
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    Where does your source say this "a police officer, who wrote in the report that it was clear that Martin felt that Zimmerman was going for a weapon, and attacked to prevent it"? Where does your source say this " This was after demanding to know who he was and why he was being followed"?
     
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    I said it was clear that Martin THOUGHT Zimmerman was going for a gun when Zimmerman was reaching for his phone, and this assumption on Martin's part is the reason he attacked Zimmerman.
     
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    Yeah... I tried that first.

    Can I see your source?
     
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    Why would Zimmerman even mention about reaching for anything if he indeed killed Martin in 'cold blood' as some here say? That makes no sense and what idiot jumps a guy about to pull a gun on them? Nope....Sorry...That doesn't pass the smell test.
     
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    Your statement made it appear that Zimmerman stated that. Now, you are saying that you are just speculating on what Martin thought?
     

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