Socialism works every time it's tried.

No we call it a failure because it always results in economic failure. Every single time. Socialism has nothing at all to do with trying to make people equal. It is an economic system. Wealth redistribution is a political activity. In a socialist economy, government runs the businesses or at least most of them. Most formerly socialist economies have embraced capitalism at least in part in order to avoid economic collapse. China and Russia are two obvious examples.

 

Yes, and it has never existed. All you've seen is strategies to "get to" socialism. And they all failed except for Cuba. They are still trying though they're not there yet either.

 

I view Cuba as an economic failure. But I am biased. I used to live there prior to communism. There were poor people back in the day but every Cuban (party members excepted) is poor today. It is no different in Cuba today than China and Russia were prior to their moving toward a capitalist economy. 100% failure.

The reason is that people are self interested. They like to work toward their own benefit. They don't like working toward the benefit of others. The incentives are all wrong in Socialism. So while it works in a position paper, it doesn't work in practice because it involves human beings.

 

much like marjuana is illegal, yet some states allow it... illegally of course, but they do...

or harbor illegals from ice, another illegal act.

so dont go telling me what i've witnessed with my own eyes at dept of social services, as well as neighbors that have those things and are here illegally... these are indeed known facts...

for whats its worth, i dont care what people think of me, never have, never will...

 

that rebuttal makes no sense...

 

To which you respond "It would be better than welfare for illegals"

= You think it would be better for you and your family to be starving and in the gutter than for the Gov't to use some of your tax dollars to provide welfare to illegals.

 

Do you know about the current push to develop worker-owned co-ops? They seem to be having some successes. I'd like to travel to Cuba to find out about but I have other people to please when it comes to travel, and Cuba isn't on their list.

 

But you like states' rights, right?

SSN
SNAP
Medicare

 

heres my post, can you now see why your other post made no sense...

i'll give you the benefit of doubt, rather than accuse you of misquoting me...

 

yes, kode, thems the rules, but they get broken, abused by people in sanctuaries such as my state...

 

So when Democrats argue for welfare programs, I shouldn’t see Republicans accusing them of trying to make America socialist, yes?

 

Source for this claim?

 

Not having the bad luck of being injured or struck down by illness that allows him to have worked hard is indeed a privilege.

 

Can you provide any data, numbers, other facts via links?

 

What's the average lifespan there?

 

butt hurt much

 

Don't know.

 

That’s right. There seems that there’s a equal amount of uninformed republicans, as those who think that the Nordic countries are socialist.

 

Actually...I just googled it and it appears you are correct. My apologies.

 

In theory, governments and for-profit enterprises have very different motives. In practice, the actual people in government and the actual people in for-profit enterprises are motivated by the exact same spectrum of incentives.

 

Socialism is the belief that everyone can live at the expense of everyone else.

 

Socialism has a mandatory nature. Nothing about socialism is voluntary. Socialism seeks to eliminate all mutually-voluntary enterprises. It's not that socialists don't have good intentions, it's just that the right to have one's good intentions imposed upon others by force should be reserved to the parents of small children. Socialists seem, to me, to be those who simply cannot feel fulfilled, as individuals, unless they're telling other people what to do.

 

There are two types of socialism. The first type of socialism tries to make everyone equal because equality and fairness are morally right. The second type simply tries to maximize the prosperity of the ordinary citizens in general by greatly limiting the power of the wealthy and large corporations.

There are two types of capitalism. The first minimizes government involvement in the economy because freedom and personal responsibility are inherently right. The second type minimizes government involvement in the economy because that is best for the prosperity of ordinary citizens.

I believe that we should maximize the prosperity of ordinary citizens and a free market economy is the best way to do this. However if the powerful and wealthy aren't regulated, they will take abuse their power and need to be regulated.

 

How does acknowledging the existence of privilege equal butt hurt?

 

Yes. Coops tend to fail because they dilute the profit motive. You may be disappointed with a trip to Cuba. The government won't let you tour the country on your own. They will confine you to Varadero or some other resort location where you can enjoy the sun and beautiful beaches, sleep comfortably and enjoy a Cuba Libre or Mojito. You can do that on any Caribbean island without supporting a terrible regime. I recommend US Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico where you can support Americans.