Socialist Lies (and the truths of the dangers of Socialism) - Thread

Educate yourself:

Single-payer healthcare is a healthcare system in which the state, financed by taxes, covers basic healthcare costs for all residents regardless of income, occupation, or health status.

Your Seaman's Hospital was only for seamen. Does not even fit the basic definition.

 

Thank you for disqualifying yourself from any further civil discourse on this topic with me since you obviously don't understand the basic terminology or the even the concept for that matter.

Have a nice day!

 

Your inability to comprehend the legislation in the context in which it was passed is not my problem.

 

There you go again judging people based on YOUR views of right and wrong. You're clearly jealous that the haves aren't forced to give to the have-nots. Sorry but, nobody's listening to you on here if you continue to feel what's mine is yours.

 

So at the end of the week a nasty capitalist issues you a paycheck and your work is rewarded and that is living off your back? Please explain?

 

He doesn't have a job and he's British.

He knows not of pride and honour, but of the boom years of his kind given to him by Prime Minister Tony Blair.

He's in a country that pays him cash money for looking for a job, as well as pays his landlord rent and for his medicine.

No one is forcing him to do anything.

His 'pay cheque' when his benefit is awarded is because of Brits like me who earn enough here to see tax reductions on my wages since it's above a certain amount.

And what does the little **** do to thank us?
He says he wants more and that we're robbing him.

 

Thankfully Prime Minister David Cameron addressed this issue freezing the amount Job Seekers receive so this benefit money WON'T rise with inflation in a pledge to make sure people who work see more money than people who don't. - This policy is fair because those who work for a living should be entitled to more than those who don't.
He cited people who go out to work early in the morning everyday compared to people who are just going to bed at that time of day, saying the people who work should see more than the people who don't.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ork-shy-to-lose-benefits-for-three-years.html

 

Really? Who are the victims? And what property of the victims has been stolen?

 

Their spouses, their families, their community, their town, the associations they belong to or donate to, their country.

 

So where is capitalism free from restraint and devoid of regulatory controls?

 

Having 'rich envy' is a terrible way to go through life. Sad really when the opportunity Is there for all.

 

I've studied this phenomenon in Lambeth College (Clapham Campus) in their Sociology Class in 2005; I've learned in society, part of it, are people who pride themselves in being being poor. Pride in not knowing, and taking pride of failure.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/830574/Trevor-Nunn-stones-Tory-Conservative-MP-candidate
I hate it when people hate Tories (Conservative) because their parents raised them to vote Labour (Socialist).
These type of people are devoid of all independent thought and allow their parents to chose their politics for them.

 

Amen Brotha!

That's what indeed makes it fair.
The loop holes/accounting tricks I like, are there for EVERYONE (if you have the capital).

 

How to not pay income tax in the UK;

Step one, become self employed.
If you have an LTD (UK for LLC), make sure it doesn't report a profit so it isn't subject to pay corporation tax. A zero hours contract drawn up between you and this should ensure you're not working more than part time and aren't earning enough to pay tax in what you do.

Step two, invest in stocks and shares (It could be for the company you work for if they have public shares, but, it doesn't matter what you buy shares in as long as it pays a return).

Step three, once you've employed yourself and have made a return on your investment, you pay DIVIDENDS TAX

Step four, go to work, do your job, earn your money, and enjoy your salary (doesn't matter how high it is) tax free, no income tax.

That's one thing to do in Britain if you can. - The only real tricky bit is making sure your investments generate a return in order to pay your dividends tax.

At the end of the day you're still doing your job, still earning money, and still paying (dividends) tax, but your salary then becomes your take home pay after taxes.

 

Probably in the past -



in the days of President McKinley... (I saw The Men Who Build America over and over).

but you and I both know those days are over.

 

Even in the days of McKinley capitalism was not devoid of regulatory controls. For instance, states imposed "unit banking" regulations on banks, which contributed to the bank failures of the Great Depression.

 

Oh.

 

The reduction in costs is pragmatically limited for the individual just as they are for any enterprise.

What we really witness is the hypocrisy of "faux capitalism" where the individual and the enterprise are expected to co-exist with a double-standard being applied. There's one standard for the enterprise under this "faux capitalism" and another standard applied to the individual.

Enterprise: Reduced costs are related to reduce prices. Linkage exists.
Individual: Reduced prices are unrelated to reduced costs. Linkage does not exist.

The hypocrisy of the double-standard cannot exist if capitalism is to be successful as a viable economic model.

We're witnessing the failure of Capitalism every day of every year based upon the costs of welfare that required to subsidize the under-compensation (price below cost) for labor in the United States. Welfare assistance in the United States isn't "socialism" but instead it's "capitalism" where the effects of a double-standard under capitalism require mitigation whenever the price for a product/service is below the cost to provide the product/service.
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Correction

Obama ~ "First person/household must be able to fund their fundamental household expenditures and if they don't have discretionary income that they can use to fund health care then the government will provide FREE health insurance under Medicaid. If they have some discretionary income, after the fundamental household expenditures are fully funded, that can be dedicated to health insurance but not enough to fully fund the purchase of health insurance then the government will provide a subsidy so they can afford mandatory health insurance to offset the costs of insurance for those with pre-existing conditions. If the person/household has ample discretionary income, after the fundamental household expenditures are fully funded, then the person must use that discretionary income to purchase health insurance to offset the costs of insurance for those with pre-existing conditions."

Funding of the fundamental household expenditures such as food, energy, shelter, transportation, clothing, etc. comes first under Obamacare.

 

My post kills you doesn't it, live in one of the 19 states that didn't take the carrot with Obama care.

Once again before Obama care people could chose to buy food , put a roof over their heads and then decide to buy health care..


With Obama care~ you must buy health insurance first or pay a tax then you may eat and put a roof over your head.








http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4680566

 

Anyone can reduce his costs.

 

Socialism is a wonderful concept if you're a bee. Unfortunately the human race is too lazy and greedy for it to ever work.