South Africa to change constitution to legalize taking away white farmers' land

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  1. vman12

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    Yeah.

    Using electricity is cultural appropriation.

    We want our clean water back, too.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White farmers profited and benefited off of a very unfair, unjust and racist land allocation system.
     
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    I'm sure engaging in evil acts today fixes the evil act of the past.

    Didn't your mom tell you? Two wrongs don't make it right
     
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    Jewish relatives are getting the stuff from people who got killed by nazi's.
    That and Germany handed over money to Jewish funds to spread the love to the Jewish community.
    Dunno why black people can't have that.
     
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    I still don't get the link of homosexuality and restitution.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, we can have whatever stone club and loin cloths were taken from them when they were brought here.
     
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    Now the black people are going to starve.

    We've seen all of this before.
     
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    Apartheid rule ended much later than what the nazi's did to the Jews.
    And they Jews got some restitution. So I dunno why black people should be skipped.
    So your stone club / loin cloths is not really on par with this all.
     
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    And now black people will.
     
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    And how does that relate to the question of " civilized" ?
     
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    While the Conservative media would make it up even if it didn't happen.
     
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    No, they'll starve to death now.
     
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    Oh I thought you meant America.

    Go ahead and take that land, SA. You'll be starving to death in no time.
     
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    Justice is not relevant here. When the whites arrived the Blacks were indeed living in primitive conditions, and would be today had the whites left them alone. But the whites did not come to bring civilisation to backward peoples, and they ended up with the land only because of one aspect of their superior civilisation: their ability to use force. Gunpowder, not geometry or philosophy or any other aspect of civilisation made them the masters. Now the situation is reversed, and they must leave, or live in a society which will begin to revert to the state of nature it was in when they found it, Simple. Those who remain should be awarded a collective Darwin Award.
     
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    Only most of 'em.
     
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    Here's the thing, I don't get how any Boer couldn't have seen this coming. They had a good decade to sell and get out after apartheid. Did they actually think that they were going to be able to keep their positions, lives, and property forever? Eventually, the desperately poor majority populace would get jealous, and want to take their stuff. This is a natural result of multiracial/multicultural societies.
     
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    Once again, 'I can lead a horse to water but I can't make the poor, stupid bastard drink." Or is that "evasion much"?!
     
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    What did South African blacks have before the whites came? Sharp sticks? They certainly didn't own any land. They were a stone-age people. Land ownership was unknown in the stone-age.
     
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    We can certainly start with this fact and then ask what would be justice for people today given these facts. Apartheid is not the fault of whites today, but at least some have had an advantage. Blacks have been disadvantaged.
     
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    What would "make it right?" Apartheid advantaged not only white landowners but white people in all walks of life.
     
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    Good grief. You should be embarrassed to make a statement like that.
     
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  23. Pollycy

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    Maybe the answer is that White South Africans believed what they were told -- that Black Africans were civilized, talented, hard-working, and fully integrated into the "modern" world where people are treated equally and fairly. SURPRISE! :buggered:

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    Not necessarily. It doesn't have to go the way it did in Zimbabwe.
     
  25. Lil Mike

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    Civilized is irrelevant in this context, but frankly so is being "talented, hard-working, and fully integrated into the "modern" world." It boils down to the Black majority thought things were going to get better, and no surprise, for most of them it did not, and they started to look for a scapegoat....honestly, this seems to play out over and over.

    Also frankly, that pic is a little racist, or at least the meme part of it is. Probably the wrong message.
     
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