South Korea's ruling party calls for faster transfer of military control from U.S.

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  1. grapeape

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    Again, you keep making things up to fit your agenda.

    It has been CLEARLY stated, including by the Trump admin that they left things for the Afghani army.

    You have absolutely no proof of any claim that Joe Biden s responsible for the armaments falling into the hands of the Taliban. NONE. Your ideology is making the claim, and you cannot back it with any proof. If he did, then show the proof.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are correct, it should have said 13,000. But that doesnt change the fact that Trump drew them down to 2500 before he left office, correct ?
     
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    Most of the country supports leaving Afghanistan, what’s the problem?
     
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    I dont have any problem leaving that crap hole. I have a problem blaming the wrong guy.
     
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    There’s plenty of blame to go around. Partisan finger pointing is going too accomplish absolutely nothing.
    I don’t think the Biden admin has handled the withdrawal very well, but I’m glad he has decided to see leaving Afghanistan thru.

    Leaving was going to be a shitshow no matter what when it came to the Afghani population, because no matter what their government was going to collapse.

    So, I don’t think it’s too unreasonable too say that Americans, and other civilians from our NATO partners should have been out of the country well before we reached this point.
     
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    I’m not making things up at all, you are. Biden left these arms to our enemies knowing the taliban would easily win. His own intelligence told him so. And yet, he left them these arms anyways. What a terrible leader and this blood is completely on him and him alone.
     
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    Sure he'll make it to 2024. As with Trump, it is the other side's wishful thinking that the president will not finish his term. Only the voters can remove a president from office. We've had a few hundred years and no precedent that a president can removed before his term. It has never happened, not even once. The closest we ever got was when Nixon resigned.
     
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    Thats not what the state dept and military say.

    Both had accounted for this.scenario.

    Biden ignored them.
     
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    The only way we could have prepared for this is by keeping all the troops in Afghanistan. But if we had done that the Taliban wouldn't have started their takeover. And then what would the US do? This whole thing is sounding like a Catch-22.
     
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    show your proof, I’ve asked it multiple times and you keep posting the same drivel. Show your work. (I fully expect the same post in a few minutes without any citations or proof)

    Blend did NOT give the arms to the Taliban. As a matter of fact, Biden didn't negotiate with the Taliban, Trump did.
     
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    It’s not my responsibility to show you something that is widely reported, that reckless racist joe was briefed that the fall would be quick, and our arms would be in the hands of our enemies and he chose to do so anyways. This is completely on reckless racist joe. He chose this path, he chose to abandon Americans. He chose to abandon our allies. It’s completely on him.

    reckless racist joe gave the taliban our own equipment
     
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    Why do you keep dodging the fact that the weapons/truck/ammunition were already in the arms of the afghanis before he even took office. That’s process started in July of 2020 !

    “Widely reported” by AON, Newsmax, Fox ? Those “trusted sources” ?
     
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    I’m not ignoring anything, I’m pointing out the objective fact he left the arms to our enemies when he knew they would take over so quickly and without a fight. He left our own people, Americans, stranded. He handled this so poorly it’s causing people their lives and our enemies to be better armed. What a pathetic administration this has been. Widely reported by every single mainstream news source. Your inability to do your own research is not my fault.
     
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    Maybe, but thats besides the point.

    Biden blamed his own state dept and military yet they DID brief Biden about this outcome, that's what they do.

    Biden has went from taking responsibility to blaming Trump today.

    Its pathetic and its weak but so is Biden.
     
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    It didn't happen under Trump. Get over that. You just look desperate.
     
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    Ahhh another post of the “nuh-uh…Naner Naner boo boo” defense

    have a nice day
     
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    It’s the objective truth regardless if you decide to do the research or not.
     
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    Surely South Korea is strong enough to support themselves if not they can go the way of the Afghans. It's time to make a peace treaty to end the Korean War.
     
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    Then show your proof. It’s should be easy right ?
     
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    Once the decision was made to leave the civilians in Afghanistan after May 1 this kind of result became inevitable. Now we will be lucky if we can get our remaining troops out of that airport.
     
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    It would be, but it’s your responsibility to do your own research
     
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    So you make a BS claim, and expect everyone else to prove you wrong ?

    Have a nice day
     
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    It’s not bs, it’s objectively correct. Your inability to do the research is not my fault.
     
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    Your inability to provide proof of YOUR claim is your fault.

    You cant prove it so you keep deflecting. It would be easier to source your claim than to keep deflecting. But since you cant, you continue with the latter
     
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    False, my claim is objectively correct. Your inability to do the research and see that is your own fault. It’s not my job to spoon feed you information it’s your job to be informed.
     

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