Southern States Are Booming As Wealth Flees Democrat-Run Northeast

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    Your data is plant proving the claim you are making. On avg, land in rural areas is objectively more expensive lol. This is true.
     
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    It’s objectively true, you simply just aren’t aware of the facts.
     
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    Just depends on where you live. I do know that it is not unusual to see higher prices in stores in rural areas. They may have to cover more costs over less volume or their suppliers may charge them more to have to deliver to them in the sticks or they don't get volume discounts. Median home values over a state doesn't mean that much since you can have people in pretty destitute rural areas and people in urban mansions in the mix. Purchasing Power of a dollar would be a better measure if you want to look at it at a state level. Maybe also a living wage calculator site.

    Here is one link for chart below https://taxfoundation.org/price-parity-purchasing-power-100-state-2020/ . The variations are almost always attributed to housing costs though.

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    FBI agents-right out of the academy are sent to wherever they are needed. as they gain seniority, they might has some choice in duty stations. When they near the mandatory retirement age, they get several choices for final duty stations. The agents I worked with were often very senior guys because Cincinnati was a prime retirement spot since it has pro sports, great hospitals, lots of things to do but the cost of living is far better than some similar cities
     
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    My state is below $1 purchasing power but the last time I saw a figure for my city it was around $1.10 or so. That was sort of what I was getting at. Up until the last couple years, housing was dirt cheap around here for existing homes because the population was declining. Now that and speculation have reversed housing costs. Where it settles is anybody's guess. I have been shocked by some of the home prices I have seen for no-frills older homes in small rural towns though. I assume that is supply and demand as these are also places where you don't see much of any new construction.
     
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    Biden is my President, didn't vote for him, and think he's running at about 60% of brain function currently who's yours?
     
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    at 100% he was still a dolt. Bottom of his class at third tier law school, flunked the Delaware bar his first time out.
     
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    While I'll not suggest you move, since you are comfortable where you are, but out of curiosity, why do you feel you have a right to judge what is 'effective healthcare' for other people? As long as someone knows what is covered or not, and accepts the price for that coverage, the government has no place in telling people what they 'need'. Just as government has no place telling what people what they should do with their bodies, eh?
     
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    Yet , you can’t provide a chart or stats.
     
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    i am just curious, why don’t you want to talk about CA. is that because in USA , the most wealthiest state is a Blue state? Is that because eif you just “ignore” CA your math works out well for the southern state?
     
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    We are declining in life expectancy while other nations are increasing. When you look at satisfaction of care, infant mortality, cost and accessibility, we are worse than nations with universal programs.

    Government would not be telling anyone what they need with their body. I am not a Republican so I would never wish to mandate something like that. But it should be there if the individual needs it.
     
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    Also Biden, I did vote for him and I think 60% would be generous on some days.
     
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    Have you thought about what is causing the mortality? It's not insurance policies, which are NOT healthcare. Heart disease and cancer are at the top of the list.

    Neither one necessarily has anything to do with insurance. Education on the subjects would help, and since the healthcare industry is about creating customers rather than addressing the base issues of people's actual health, it's necessary to be responsive to one's own symptoms and genetic predisposition for particular health issues.

    The core to pretty much everything is understanding what is reasonably healthy for your body, and what isn't. Society can only do so much regarding the constant exposure to toxins in land, water, air, and following through, food and beverage. If you take the time for some research, and I understand when one is dealing with a particular disease or condition, one is more likely to spend the time necessary, you can build timelines between increases in particular conditions and the use of particular toxins or pollution surges.

    Single payor, or a NHS is not the blanket benefit that some tout - every system has it's failings, and the US is not the UK or Australia to actually do a valid comparison. Instead of upping the premiums of insurance, how about sliding scale clinics where people of all income levels can actually receive care without bogging down ERs or urgent care centers.

    All without demanding everyone pay for a front loaded mechanism that doesn't actually provide health CARE.
     
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    We are doing better than most and not because of Biden but because of our states economic development boards and great labor force. Go back to Dec. 2020 I was noting here that we were already hitting 4% unemployment, 3.5% in my county. Why should Biden get any credit for that? What he did do was continue handing out free money making our labor market especially tight and PREVENT growth we otherwise could have had. And I will take the steel industry, the auto industry, the aerospace industry, the shipbuilding industry, the woodproducts industry, minerals, logistics and on and on and on over Facebook and Google. And yes we do have grocery stores here we even got rid of the dirt floors and barrel stands why we even have WHOLE FOODS
     
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    There is any number on the Rep side that could get us back to those times against, there is NO ONE on the Dem side.
     
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    What year?
     
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    Those on the left take articles like this and the op Ed on todays opinion section and post stats and graphs on blue states and cities relying on past glory rather than present and future trends.
     
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    Biden inherited a strong economy and in red states and red areas in blue ones it still is, in spite of Biden and in blue states red areas in spite of their governors.
     
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    It’s nice that things are picking up. Biden is POTUS last 2 years, but things doesn’t look good for Alabama for long time.

    Alabama is the 7th poorest state in USA with poverty rate 16.1%.

    Here are some status of Alabama

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    Yes which demographic group has the highest disproportionate share of unemployment? Which group does Alabama have a disproportionate share?
     
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    Unemployment is not the only measure of poverty. Someone can work 3 jobs and still can be living under poverty level.
     
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    I don’t ignore it. I live in it. It wasn’t what the article was about. I do thread about California often enough here. This wasn’t one of them. But since you brought it up, it’s losing of companies, HQ’s, investment, people, tax base to other states and its policies keep its costs high, homelessness high, taxes high, regulations high. If California is so awesome why are so many leaving? Fortunately for me the part where I live is totally different from much of the rest.
     
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