Stealing an election is not the same thing as winning an election

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  1. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually lil mike....I uh...I actually did hack it. You remember that screenshot of fallout4 cnn posted? That is in fact the exact code I used to hack. It actually does hack if you execute it. You just point and click.
     
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    And there's the reason we beat you.
     
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    The blog is a 100% lie and doesn't even pretend to have anything to back up their lies. That was the primary tactic of the DNC, the propaganda media and press, and most Democratic talking heads - incessant, pathological lying.

    Nor it is a rational argument for Democrats to make anyway. If Hilary Clinton and the Democratic Party are so incompetent, so reckless and so vulnerable that foreign governments can breach all their security, that alone is reason to be VERY glad they are not going to be in power.

    It also is humorous to read Democrats RAGING that the election was "stolen" because rather than lies and propaganda voters actually learned the truth. Who SHOULD have been exposing the actual truth found in the emails is the American press and media - but it no longer exists and instead is just 6 corporate propaganda networks of the global super rich. I don't think the Democratic Party's War On Truth is helping them, nor is their ranting and sobbing about losing like spoiled brats.
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The lowest educated demographic, blacks, overwhelmingly voted for Clinton. Without the absolute lowest educated voters supporting her she would have been truly obliterated in the election.
     
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    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    What facts?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didn't beat me; I didn't support Hillary. :roflol:
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah? Who did you support, because everyone else got beaten as well.
     
  8. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Red state voters (mainly white uneducated voters) were Trumps biggest supporters without he would have lost the election. But now with Making America Sick Again, they will be getting an education.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I supported the American people; what about you?
     
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    With a different candidate besides the one that most Americans didn't trust, was baggage laden, under FBI investigation, appeared aloof and part of the elite, who thought she was next in line, would have handed Trump his head in a basket. As it was if that candidate who fits all the above would have campaigned like she wanted to win...

    Between 1 Sep through 8 November Trump made 116 campaign appearances, rallies, visits. Clinton made 71 and some of those 71 were fund raisers in deep blue California and New York. Trump never took a day off, Clinton took several. She was out campaigned in the states that were decisive, Wisconsin, Trump 6 visits, Clinton none. Michigan, Trump 5 visits/rallies, Clinton 1. Pennsylvania was closer, Trump 8, Clinton 5. Even in Florida Trump out campaigned her 13 to 8.

    I believe if Hillary Clinton put as much energy and time on the stump as Trump did, even with all her baggage she would have been president elect today. Look at the candidate and not at excuses.
     
  11. Battle3

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    False facts from a propaganda source do not need disproving. The failure is on your end in not vetting your own source. When will you learn? Probably never, "progressives" are so deep in the brainwashing they cannot recover.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why didn't you just say you're a Trump guy?

    Welcome aboard.
     
  13. Zorro

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    You made the assertion that the "election" was hacked. I correctly pointed out that actually Podesta was hacked, Podesta is an idiot, Clinton her campaigns email security is a joke and I certainly don't support overturning an American election to hand the office of the Presidency to a clown who lost because she and her campaign are garbage when it comes to email security.

    Why do you support overturning an American election and handing the Office of the Presidency to an incompetent imbecile?
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The Watergate break in netted the Republican Party not one bit of information and they won the election in question by one of the greatest margins in history, yet 2 years later Nixon resigned because of it. This was because they were TRYING to influence an election, not because they did. There is little question that the Russians were trying to influence this election.

    My advice to Republicans in regard to this? Be afraid, be very afraid.
     
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    Yes he did he stated fact destroying wand crushing your dishonest OP.

    The election was not hacked PERIOD.

    The burden of proof is on you to show it was and you have failed to provide even a SPECK of evidence.
     
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    Nixon did not resign out of fear of being caught trying to influence the election he resigned out of fear of impeachment over obstruction charges.

    The only thing we know is that someone, outside the nation, hacked some information ( which was all true ) and released it to the public. There is little evidence that this influenced the election AT ALL. But even if it did the only influence was to make for a more informed electorate.

    The dems especially hillary simply lost and no matter how long you spend deying that fact it is still fact
     
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    There are no excuses to use, just facts. Between the proven hacking by our intelligence community to the proven voter suppression schemes uncovered by Greg Palast, she would have wo easily.
     
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    This is a waste of time. Its just foolish propaganda from a "progressive" (and from Seattle, so you know he/she/it is beyond any rational conversation).
     
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    Incompetent imbecile? Who's the one who has been sued and fined for stealing people's money? Remember Trump got caught. If Hillary did do anything criminal, she never got caught now did she? Who's the imbecile now?
     
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    Everyone put on your tinfoil hats.
     
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    Dude, according to your own source, an obscure governor of a third-rated Russian town said that "Russia won the elections in America". It takes a very liberal and not very healthy imagination to twist that into "Russian officials admitted to the hacking". :roflol:

    Look, we understand that your November 8th loss affected you rather badly, you're only human after all. Just take it easy, stay in safe places for a few months, play with kittens, cry a lot and don't hold back, you'll get over it. Posting on political forums will on the other hand prolong your condition and hamper the chance of a speedy recovery.
     
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    I dont know what singularity event horizon black hole earth passed through on election night.

    Am I really watching the establishment scream conspiracy theories? "Russia hacked the election! We have the documents!"

    At the same time guys like Alex Jones are taking the reasoned approach asking for proof? Bizarro world.
     
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    Hillary lost.

    She was campaigning in AZ while she was losing WI, PA and MI.

    Not Smart!
     
  24. One Mind

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    The truth was exposed by wilkileaks, the only thing left resembling journalism that speaks truth to power and reveals dirty scumbag politicians. If the truth about Hillary, and the DNC loses them an election, then the fault is not with the messenger, but with the dirty scum bags who perpetrated the travesty. How Hillary supporters, you, and MSM are trying to misdirect away from the real cause of her loss is low as whale (*)(*)(*)(*). Enough of this rubbish. You guys need to go and find some integrity and practice it. I did not vote for trump, but neither is my mind so incoherent and afflicted with cognitive dissonance which would make me look like an utter fool. If this is what partisanship, primitive tribalism does to the human brain, you need to get the hell out of it.

    The only way I would agree with you is if Russia had fabricated the information which made the DNC and Hillary look like banana republic scumbags when they were innocent. And then they had given it to wilkileaks. Yet the wilkileaks was pure fact, and Russia did not give it to them. So if Russia did a hack they didn't turn the info over to wilkileaks. Which means they were hacked by someone else, or someone stateside. on the inside leaked it to wilkileaks.

    The truth beat Hillary, and some people are upset the scoundrels were revealed. I have a problem with that. And a problem with people who look for scapegoats when the pointing finger should be pointing at themselves.
     
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    This should should everyone how important it is to take precautions with sensitive information. Those who don't take precautions and leave confidential or classified information on unsecured servers shouldn't be allowed to hold office.
     

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