Steve King faces new storm over remarks about white supremacy

IMO King is a scumbag but his particular comments are not offensive. The anal retentives are on a crusade to ban freedom of expression across the board. The next big push will be to ban terms that refer to illegal aliens. The objective is to force people to express only approved thoughts on all social and political issues. We are on the verge of becoming a full-blown police State. Freedom is fading fast in America.

 

fake news <--- that is the new world Trump has created where truth is no longer truth, alternative facts rule the day

this is going to harm society for some time to come, people have to trust when people in our government get caught lying there will be consequences

 

Funny how you are one of the few that sees it that way, everybody else sees him for exactly what he is.

 

That is because there is a mob, fueled by lies and absolutely unconcerned with the truth.

 

What lies? The dude has a history of this ****.

 

Makes you wonder why it took so long for the GOP to act on this......why now?

 

Still looks like an ass.

 

Agreed - it is not the case today. In order for it to change, we need to value ALL life the same way. As long as we continue to label folks as black or white (or yellow or brown), we are perpetuating racist thought. I don't see it happening in my lifetime...

 

Hitler was a racialist socialist and a globalist. He was not a nationalist, but many of his followers were. Nationalist Nazi leaders were either purged or stripped of their power.

 

Hitler was not a globalist. He was an ultranationalist. He not only wanted Germany powerful, he wanted Germany to control everywhere there were German-speaking people.

 

King claims that he was taken out of context. I could not find a complete transcript of his remarks. Have you come across one?

"Mr. King, in the interview, said he was not a racist. He pointed to his Twitter timeline showing him greeting Iowans of all races and religions in his Washington office. (The same office once displayed a Confederate flag on his desk.)

At the same time, he said, he supports immigrants who enter the country legally and fully assimilate because what matters more than race is “the culture of America” based on values brought to the United States by whites from Europe.

“White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” Mr. King said. “Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”

After this article was published Thursday, Mr. King issued a public statement calling himself a “nationalist” and defending his support of “western civilization’s values,” and said he was not an advocate for “white nationalism and white supremacy.” “I want to make one thing abundantly clear: I reject those labels and the evil ideology they define,” he wrote."
THE NEW YORK TIMES, Before Trump, Steve King Set the Agenda for the Wall and Anti-Immigrant Politics, By Trip Gabriel, Jan. 10, 2019.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/politics/steve-king-trump-immigration-wall.html

 

That is what I used to think, but, as bad as their reputation already is, the record of Nazis in power reveals something far worse.

"To be sure, totalitarian dictators do not consciously embark upon the
road to insanity. The point is rather that our bewilderment about the anti-
utilitarian character of the totalitarian state structure springs from the mis-
taken notion that we are dealing with a normal state after all — a bureaucracy,
a tyranny, a dictatorship — from our overlooking the emphatic assertions by
totalitarian rulers that they consider the country where they happened to
seize power only the temporary headquarters of the international movement
on the road to world conquest, that they reckon victories and defeats in
terms of centuries or millennia, and that the global interests always overrule
the local interests of their own territory."
THE ORIGINS OF TOTALITARIANISM, By Hannah Arendt, Meridian Books, Cleveland, New York, 1958. https://archive.org/stream/TheOriginsOfTotalitarianism/The-Origins-of-Totalitarianism_djvu.txt

 

So you read a whackjob conspiracy theory book.

 

Almost all black Americans have always been American nationalists, but calling them "black nationalists" would be to miss the point. The original American nationalism was very conditional and almost the opposite of the modern nationalism.

If this is what King said: “White nationalist, white supremacist, Western civilization — how did that language become offensive?” Mr. King said. “Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?”

He is either ignorant or a racist. I am sure King was taught about the merits of our history and civilization, but I doubt that he was taught the merits of white nationalism and white supremacism in any public school in Iowa.

 

In fact, Arendt is a very good source.
You discredit yourself with such an uninformed dismissal.

 

Black nationalist is also offensive.

 

Much of the progressive Left did support the Nazi movement in Germany.

"Similarly the NAZI Deputies generally supported proposals by the parties of the left for increases in the level of expenditures for state welfare aid. They also joined with the left in rejecting demands of the right that a means test be required of applicants for state welfare aid."

"The Nazi's alone supported repeated communist efforts to raise sharply the level of tax exempt wages for low income groups, reduce the tax rates for those groups, and impose heavier taxation on the wealthy." Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., "German Big Business and the Rise of Hitler," Oxford University Press, Oxford 1985, p. 66.

Of course their support was based on the same kind of ignorance that attracted many German nationalists to the NSDAP.

 

Respected by paranoid conspiracy theorists.

 

Unsupported nonsense

That's just nonsense. Arendt was the first woman to be appointed a full professor at Princeton.

 

Dude, the foundation she created peddles insane conspiracy theories. They tried saying that Anders Brevik was some kind of an Illuminati Manchurian candidate.

 

You use Wikipedia who has adopted revisionist history as a source and I'm using Albert Speer's memoirs and Germans I have personally known who lived in Germany during the1920's, 30's and 40's..

Henry Ford ???

That's right it was Henery who spent a lot of time in the Soviet Union building Stalin's industrial base.

 

The Henry Ford who violently suppressed unions, opposed the New Deal, hated liberals, and promoted Conservative "traditional morality".

Were any of those Germans you supposedly knew senior Nazi officials? And Speer's memoirs are open licensed now. You should have no problem quoting the relevant passages.

 

Nazis and former Nazis are not allowed into the United States and roughly only 10% of the Germans were Nazis.

The Nationalist Socialist party was just one political party in Germany.
During the 1920's most of the Nzis were politically liberals while there were some radical socialist within the Nazi party.

The Nazi party during the late 1920's would be more comparable to the Democratic party in America today that has been contaminated with radical socialist.

Here's the thing to remember..."Inside every liberal there's a totalitarian screaming to get out."

It's what happened in Germany when the Nazis came to power.

The Waffen SS was the political army of the Nationalist Socialist in Germany. There were some really radical socialist in command of the SS and every member of the SS took an oath of allegiance to the Nazi party and Hitler, not Germany.

Where as the Weremacht was the army of Germany and every German soldier took an oath to Germany not Hitler or the Nazis.

The Weremacht didn't round up Jews or ran concentration camps or murdered Jews, that was the SS who did that.

 

LOL! Source please.

 

Ford was a progressive. Surely you know that.

"Karl Marx produced the indispensable theory, Lenin applied the theory with his sense of large scale social organization. And Henry Ford made the work of the socialist state possible. None of their contributions would have meant anything; however, without the political genius of Stalin." Diego Garcia from "Henry Ford, The Wayward Capitalist", Gelderman, p315

"The enlightened new labor rules at Ford, the five dollar minimum, and the struggle of the sociological department to raise living standards should have inspired imitation, but in fact what they inspired was an epithet for Henry Ford- the 'Mad Socialist' of Highland Park." Same p58.