Steve King faces new storm over remarks about white supremacy

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  1. APACHERAT

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    Ever looked at all of the different battle flags of the Union Army during the Civil War ?

    Before 1865 Americans held their loyalty not to the federal government in Washington DC but to the sovereign state they lived in.

    Look at the Union Army's "order of battle," mostly made up of state militia's and volunteers not the regular U.S. Army.
     
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    Did you bother to read the third paragraph you quoted there?
     
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    Similarly the Confederates brought it upon themselves by treasonously seceding in order to maintain slavery. They deserve to have their statues torn down.
     
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    And this new deflection changes nothing. The Confederate Battle Flag remains a flag of anti-Americanism and racism.
     
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    I only posted one sentence quoting myself not three paragraphs.
     
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    But their statues are made of bronze not lead.

    Bronze bullets just aren't effective.

    Besides, lead maybe politically incorrect but bronze isn't.
     
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    Sorry, second paragraph of that blog post you quoted.
     
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    Maybe they shouldn’t have cast them to begin with. But Southern Conservatives desperately wanted to honor racist traitors and use their memory to suppress minority rights, so that wasn’t going to happen.
     
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    Like it or not comrade, the American Civil War is part of America's history and in the endgame Americans no longer hold their loyalty to their individual state but to the U.S. Constitution. '

    It cost 620,000 American lives.

    If it was all about slavery, there would be tens of millions demanding restitution from the ancestors of former slaves for paying such a high cost.
     
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    He's not a racist. He's a nationalist...I would recommend you go to his website and see what he says as opposed to the hype which isn't based on truth.
     
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    It was about slavery. Literally every single Confederate state listed slavery as their reason for seceding.

    Nice try as victim blaming though. Please keep up your white supremacist apologetics. You give Conservatives the exact name they deserve.
     
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    The fact that you took that from my statement shows you really are so totally ignorant, that I am not even sure its possible to explain reality to you. But Ill give it a small try.

    First. A system of white privilege does NOT mean that all white people are racist. Saying so is just pure stupidity.

    I will provide you with ONE real life example. If you need more. do your own homework ( im sure you wont though, because then you would likely be forced to change your heartfelt position once you started to actually form an opinion based on facts )

    A very good friend of mine is African American. We regularly take trips up to Michigan to visit mutual friends.

    He drives a VERY nice car, and we most of the time take his car, vrs my old beat up car.

    He has been pulled over in excess of 30 times in the state of Indiana. Never a single charge or ticket. Not once. But yet, it continues to happen on a very regular basis. Now, when we drive together, we stop at the Indiana border, and swap. I drive through Indiana now instead of him. I havent been pulled over a single time. Ever.


    So, one example of white privilege is being able to drive a nice car of any kind, and not have it being as suspected stolen wherever i drive.
     
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    Correction. He is a WHITE Nationalist. He is a nationalist who wants to make sure that white people remain the majority in America through whatever means he can.
     
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    No that is not what he is saying. Like I said, read his website. What he is saying makes total sense.
     
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    No, only four mentioned slavery.
     
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    Back up that claim with evidence.
     
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    If you been indoctrinated in revisionist history it's very likely you are clueless of the "Crittenden–Johnson Resolution." aka the Union's war aims..

     
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    Northern Propaganda doesn’t matter. The Southern states made it clear their secession was about slavery.
     
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    Do you think all of the southern states seceded from the Union at the same time ?

    Do you think that all of the southern state legislatures represented the majority of its citizens living in their states or were allowed to vote if the state should secede or not from the union ?
     
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    I made no claim that all seceded at the same time. I think the southern legislatures represented the governments that formed the Confederacy.

    Each state issued a secession declaration or had their state leaders commenting on their secession. They all cited slavery as their reason they were seceding.
     
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    He is a racist, white nationalist.
     
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    Living enemies?
     
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    And except for the original states that succeeded the majority didn't mention slavery as being a reason even though some in the state legislatures were representing the minority who owned slaves.

    The vast majority of the Southern soldiers didn't own slaves and would have never fought for the rich elitist who did own slaves.

    In the North the vast majority were not going to fight and die to end slavery.

    Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation made slavery a war issue but was a military strategy that most of the Union generals opposed was a military failure just like Gen. Giap's "Tent Offensive" of 1968. But was a political win because the American media and in particular Walter Cronkite lied to the American people about Tet.

    The 13th Amendment that abolished slavery was defeated in the House of Representatives in Congress the first time it went to vote.
    Why was that ?
     
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    And Lincoln went to war to force them back into the Union with their slavery intact along with the Union slave states where slavery was legal all through the war, even after the Emancipation Proclamation, and even at the end of the war.
     
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    How come we can teach black children to be proud of their black race, their black heritage, their black history but to do that for white children would be branded racist and white supremacy? How come we can have black political groups, black professional groups, black publications, black awards and on and on but put "white" in front of any of those it is call racist and white supremacy?
     

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