Study says Fox News viewers know less about News than those who watch no news

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  1. akc814ilv

    akc814ilv New Member

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    Not shocking in the slightest. I dont blame FOX though. Liberals are simply more intelligent than Conservatives, so the people watching just aren't as intelligent as the people who find their news from non Fox News sources.

    Source.....Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, George W Bush.
     
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    MSNBC during the day and some (though not all Huffington Post) stories are good. Sometimes Huffington Post will just summarize a story found by the New York Times or the Associated Press. And most of the time they give citations and links to what they say. It's not the same as Fox at all. But NPR and PBS are the best!
     
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    Ah, yes. Control the process so that the results will give you what you want. As I've always said, politics is humanity at its worst.
     
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    I gotta admit....sometimes I flip back and forth between our local righty talk radio and NPR. Though many people think NPR = righty talk radio.....when I hear NPR, it's all these people talking like the "Schwetty balls" chicks on SNL, and they're talking about other countries, and playing really good jazz music, and occasionally rendering lefty viewpoints...

    When I switch over to Rush, or Tom Sullivan, or Sean Hannity......man alive!!!....they're frothing with fury!....we're all dieing!......oh god! socialism!... ruined economy!...destroy America!...class warfare......they're against God!......they want to fundamentally change the country!!!...and take our freedoms and liberties!!!!!

    ...it's enough to raise my bloodpressure, and certainly isn't healthy to let that inside your head
     
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    Erm. Did you read the study? MSNBC was included. And it scored horribly as well. But Fox did worse. Watching either is bad for your brain.
     
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    One of the women are named Herman Cain? THAT'S CLASSIC!!!! And what does she have to do with lefty not being smart...?

    Your post made no sense whatsoever... Please re-evalutate "moron"...
     
  7. akc814ilv

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    hahaha yep. I listen to these goons on my lunch break just for sheer entertainment purposes and its all FEAR. FEAR FEAR FEAR.


    Its entertaining but its crazy how many people listen to these guys and think that they are telling them the truth. They do what they do for ratings.
     
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    HA HA HAA!!! I do the exact same!!! On the ride home I change from NPR to Lars Larson (local and Nat'l.) and it's like Demons vs. Gerbils... Two totally different types of news. One open, the other is "in your face".

    I remember I had a roommate, after my tour with the Marines who was a "newly found" Christian. I used to watch John Hagee with him and it's the same crap! I couldn't tell you how many times I heard the "The second comind of Christ is upon us.... when blah blah blah happened... The end of the world is upon us!!!"

    Republican radio is the same way... It's, as the Marines do, brainwashing... pretty simple. Obedience and discipline achieved by fear...
     
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    Shoot Goldwater, I have no idea. I do not partake in propaganda.... Also, Rivera isn't non white is he? I thought he was half Jewish or something like that... Isn't that why he got clocked in the face by the chair by those Aryan Nation folks?

    But, they have to have one!! The Republicans will always have ONE!!! Hence the orginal name for "a token"...
     
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    I am so going to find education level for affiliated political party via census.gov!!
     
  11. akc814ilv

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    Im sure Herman Cain will have his own Fox show after this election. He isnt gonna win the nomination but he seems like the type of guy they will give a show to.

    All those cute blondes they have running around there better be careful. Well at least Sarah Palin finally will have a black man there she can hook up with. He doesnt quite look like Glen Rice but hey close enough for her im sure.
     
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    Last weekend I listened to NPR in my car on a drive....

    they played the new Savvoy Brown CD...that wasn't biased.

    They talked about European debt problems and what the European leaders were saying, and I couldn't tell if they were biased.

    They interviewed a few middle eastern journalists, and they weren't predicting the end of the world, or threatening to impose Sharia law, so righties would probably say that means they're biased.

    But it was nothing like Fox, or Rush in terms of sheer fear, anger, and hatred.
     
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    I think that the amount of liberal bias on NPR is ridiculously exaggerated. A couple things to remember first - NPR's members stations all decide independently what programs to air or not, and many of them produce their own in house programing and also get programing from networks other then NPR, such as PRI, so what exactly you hear on an NPR station can vary a lot from one station to the next.

    Also, there's a lot of variation between different programs on NPR. I have generally found the core straight news programs - such as Morning Edition - to generally be neutral and with good reporting. Things like interview and talk shows - such as Fresh Air - do tend to have more of a liberal slant. Although certainly nothing compared to the histrionics you get from someone like Beck.

    The other thing (and one of the main reasons I listen to NPR) is because they often cover things that are hard to find from any other source. For example, WHYY here in Philly has by far the best coverage of state and local politics that I've found anywhere.
     
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    Hagee is scary.....just plain scary. It reminds me of the same kind of destructive intolerant fundamentalism we see some Muslims in the middel east practicing
     
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    Thanks for driving home my point! :no:
     
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    Fox isn't like MSNBC. MSNBC shows nothing but partisan propaganda, Fox does not spend 100% of its air time on it like MSNBC does, but yes both are somewhat biased.
     
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    "Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson, explained in a statement, "Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other groups being more likely to watch Fox News. Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

    Yeah, right. So.....who "controlled" the partisanship of the dear Professor??? :) This is a political science class, for heaven's sakes. Are we supposed to believe this means anything in the real world????
     
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    You bring up Fox and every Liberal comes out of the cracks to take a punch. Talk about hate. Fox doesn't hold a candle to the hate the right puts out. These people sound like Alqaeda


    Liberal Radio Hate: 'Someone Should Feed [Bachmann] Some Listeria-Filled Canteloupe'

    By Tim Graham | October 14, 2011 | 14:32


    Brian Maloney at the Radio Equalizer blog caught another jaw-dropper on the Stephanie Miller radio show. On the October 7 morning show, Jim Ward, Miller’s Rich Little-ish sidekick and cartoon “voice actor,” wished someone would feed Michele Bachmann “some listeria-filled canteloupe.” That's wishing-someone-dead talk. The current listeria death toll is 23.

    After a clip of Michele Bachmann insisting that less regulations would mean
    that employers like she and her husband could create more jobs, Miller chimed in:


    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/people/stephanie-miller#ixzz1eTMb7ylZ



    Shuster: Fire Department Should Let Glenn Beck's House Burn Down If It Ever Catches Fire

    By Noel Sheppard | January 19, 2010 | 17:06


    MSNBC's David Shuster on Monday said that if Fox News host Glenn Beck's house were to catch fire, the fire department should let it burn down.

    Such was discussed on Stephanie Miller's radio program in a segment hysterically about so-called crazy things said by conservatives.

    After Shuster characteristically demeaned the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney, Miller noted, "Glenn Beck actually said that the President is dividing the nation by reacting too quickly to the Haiti situation."

    Shuster jumped all over this setup like a grizzly on a salmon (audio embedded below the fold with partial transcript, h/t Naked Emperor News):


    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/people/stephanie-miller#ixzz1eTNCa3mi



    Lib Talker: 'Maybe Limbaugh Should Be Executed For Treason'


    By Noel Sheppard | March 05, 2009 | 12:10


    On Tuesday, liberal talk radio host Stephanie Miller called Rush Limbaugh's now well-publicized statement about wanting Barack Obama to fail "treasonous," and wondered if he should be executed for saying such a thing.

    Miller made this rather provocative comment on CNN's "Larry King Live," and oddly nobody batted an eye or seemed at all put off by it.

    Not surprisingly, the topic of discussion between King and his guests -- which other than Miller included the Huffington Post's Arianna Huffington, conservative talk radio host Lars Larson, and GOP strategist Nancy Pfotenhauer -- was all the brouhaha surrounding Limbaugh (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, relevant section at 1:25, h/t NB reader David Wells):


    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/people/stephanie-miller#ixzz1eTNjqx3r



    This report includes examples of over-the-top rhetoric from left-wing hosts Mike Malloy, Stephanie Miller, Randi Rhodes, Ron Reagan, Jr., Ed Schultz and Montel Williams, all of whom currently or at one time broadcast to a national audience on either the Air America network or via XM and/or Sirius satellite radio. Among the lowlights:

    ■ Conservatives Want to Kill Barack Obama: “I really think there are conservative broadcasters in this country who would love to see Obama taken out.” (Ed Schultz)

    ■ Conservatives Are Terrorists: “Do you not understand that the people you hold up as heroes bombed your god(*)(*)(*)(*) country? Do you not understand that Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly are as complicit of the September 11, 2001 terror attack as any one of the dumbass 15 who came from Saudi Arabia?” (Mike Malloy)

    ■ Conservatives Want You to Die: “If, in fact, the GOP doesn’t like any form of health care reform, what do we do with those 40 to 60 million uninsured?…When they show up in the emergency room, just shoot ‘em! Kill them!…Do we have enough body bags? I don’t know.” (Montel Williams)

    ■ Conservative Congresswoman Would Have Liked the Holocaust: “[Representative Michele Bachmann is] a hatemonger. She’s the type of person that would have gladly rounded up the Jews in Germany and shipped them off to death camps….This is an evil (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) from Hell.” (Mike Malloy)

    ■ Dick Cheney Eats Babies:
    “Cheney, by the way, looks very ruddy. I couldn’t get over that. Like, he must have feasted on a Jewish baby, or a Muslim baby. He must have sent his people out to get one and bring it back so he could drink its blood.” (Mike Malloy)

    ■ Dick Cheney Should Die: “He is an enemy of the country, in my opinion. Dick Cheney is an enemy of the country….Lord, take him to the Promised Land, will you? See, I don’t even wish the guy goes to Hell, I just want to get him the hell out of here.” (Ed Schultz)

    ■ Rush Limbaugh Should Die: “I’m waiting for the day when I pick up the newspaper or click on the Internet and find that he’s choked to death on his own throat fat, or a great big wad of saliva or something, whatever. Go away, Limbaugh, you make me sick.” (Mike Malloy)

    ■ Michele Bachmann Should Die: “So, Michele, slit your wrist! Go ahead! I mean, you know, why not? I mean, if you want to — or, you know, do us all a better thing. Move that knife up about two feet. I mean, start right at the collarbone.” (Montel Williams)


    http://www.therightscoop.com/mrc-lowlights-in-left-wing-hate-radio/
     
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    And this is why no one takes Fox News seriously as a legitimate news organization.
     
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    I don't watch, or listen to, any of those media sources you've quoted......but this is really the pot calling the kettle black.

    therightscoop?
    newsbusters?

    Man...those sources you're citing that provide evidence that mainstream media is worse than conservative media.....are as bad as it gets, and certainly not any better than MSNBC, or the people they criticize
     
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    hehehe its true
     
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    I don't believe it. I don't watch Fox News (I'm an NPR listener), but the people I know who do are at least as well informed as I am. I've read the study methodology. I don't understand from reading it how they distinguished between Fox News' effects, and the effects of other news sources.

    According to Table K1 on the below link, it seems that most people are getting their news from more than one source. They didn't explain how they isolated Fox News' effect in the later tables.



    K1: Americans now have more ways than ever before to get their news about politics and world affairs. I’m going to read you a list of news sources. As I read the list, just say “yes” if you got news from that source any
    time in the past week.
    News Sources Yes No
    A Local Newspaper 74 26
    A Local TV News Broadcast 67 33
    CNN 65 35
    Fox News 64 36
    A National News Broadcast 62 38
    MSNBC 51 49
    A National Newspaper like the New York Times or USA
    Today
    42 58
    A Talk Radio Show 41 59
    A Political Blog or News Website 30 70
    A Sunday Morning Political News Show 27 73
    NPR 21 79
    The Daily Show with Jon Stewart 18 82



    http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2011/knowless/
     
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    here's a hint. NPR is news. Talk radio is opinion. They are two different things with two different intents. They are not intended to be the same thing.
     
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    I've read the study. (See one of my other posts for a link to it). From what I can tell, teh study was not well designed. I can't see how they distinguished between the news channels after the first question.
     
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    The commentary on NPR is definitely liberal. The news is as unbiased as you can get.

    I'm a conservative, and I've listened to NPR news for 28 yrs.
     

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