STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 D

Liberalism is based on emotion, not reality.

Hurry up and get the antibody tests out that are already used in Germany (hear that, FDA?) and anybody that is positive goes back to work. They can't get the virus or spread it, vulnerable groups that probably don't work anyway stay quarantined.

 

And most of those 16,703 are already in some form of quarantine. Now, if we were as medically advanced as South Korea(and we're not) we should be able to designate a chain of contacts for those 16,703 thousand and that those people are the ones who are actually at risk.

It's not an exponential curve, it's a family tree. The bigger the tree, the more the total group is going to be.

 

Yeah but if you did contact tracing instead you wouldn't be able to have a mass shutdown of the American economy, and that wouldn't be any fun!

 

The 'experts' that said no face masks needed, that gave us a situation with no tests early on, and then of course Dr. Fauci, who on 1/26 said the virus threat was very minimal to the US, and the WHO who on 1/14 said their Chinese masters assured them it wasn't contagious. That was a lie, at the same time China was buying medical supplies around the world, probably selling them for a profit now.

 

There are two types of lies: White lies, that are unintentional misrepresentations of the truth or misrepresentations of the truth that in the end are either for the person's own interests or irrelevant. Or malicious and deliberate lies. China, no doubt maliciously lied but what about Fauci with his clear Gates connection?

There's a HUGE financial conflict of interest that has to be investigated. Their funds and think tanks hadn't been fully subponea'd even by Congress. Time for that to end.

 

Ah yes, the experts from WHO...

 

Whoops...bet they wish they had that one to do over...

 

CDC = Fake Science

 

If you read today's news you would see that they are now studying sewage treatment plants in more than one location since Covid -19 can be detected in feces.They have determined that FAR MORE people than our numbers indicate actually have the virus. **** don't lie!!!

 

The coronavirus is currently the #1 cause of death in the US

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/coronavirus-now-leading-cause-of-death-in-us.570974/

Let me say that again, currently over 1900 Americans are dying every day from the virus, meaning the coronavirus is deadlier than the flu, car accidents, terrorism, cancer, heart disease, or suicide. It is currently killing more Americans than anything else, and if not for the necessary steps we have taken, the numbers would be much much worse

 

As of Good Friday morning, the number of known deaths from CoronaVirus inside the United States was 16,703. So what these statisticians are saying is that since January nothing has caused more deaths inside the United States over the same time span, not murders, heart attacks, car accidents? You believe that? The time span . . . matters.

 

What I am saying is currently over 1900 Americans are dying of the virus every day. Just today it was over 2000, and tomorrow it will probably be another 2000. I am saying currently this virus is deadlier than anything else in the country, and if we were to not take the necessary steps to prevent this virus from spreading, these numbers would be even worse.

Fewer people were dying from the virus in January because fewer people had contacted the virus.. but today, enough people have contacted the virus for it to be the #1 cause of death in the US. That is why we need to reduce the outbreak of this virus immediately, otherwise these numbers will become much much worse. Your timeline logic is irrational, you might as well argue that there were 0 deaths from the virus last year in the US, so we shouldn't take it seriously

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/07/new-research-wastewater-community-spread-covid-19/

This is the study I believe you're referencing? I googled it.

 

Whoever was assigned to this job has one shitty job.

Still interesting nonetheless

 

Not exactly. Like half the cases are asymptomatic, and most of the fatalities are old people with other serious health issues.

 

In New York between April 1st and April 5th, there were 1,100 corpses found on city streets, or inside a home. This is 8X times greater than last year.

Currently, the US Covid death toll is 19,882 deaths, by tomorrow the death toll will be 7X times the 9/11 terrorist attack death count.

Trump on the World Trade Center 9/11 catastrophe, "The greatest attack in history."
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No, don't buy it.

Sure, take all the accidental deaths on 9/11 and you too can then make absurd, exaggerated, fearmongering BS claims like "accidental deaths are now more than cancer and hearth disease!" (then in fine print... but only on 9/11) Doesn't matter that they put specifics in a link or even summary, they are created to fearmonger HEADLINES. Fake News.

 

Its so amazing to listen to people who nothing talk about how people who actually do the work!

The first beginnings of COVID detection were in early December (in retrospect some detections were earlier but what the heck was it? was a fair question). So after culturing again and again someone had a new virus but what it does is yet to determined!

But by this time this is the beginning of January, and no one had yet see a transmission from one person to another with no ability for it to be contaminated by the slightest touch, etc.

So the statement from WHO meant what it said, which is how science works. Of course, its fine to Republicans to claim that some drug is going to save the world with no evidence, even there is still 2000 per day dying, but what the heck! Who cares about reality?

 

The WHO hasn't been exemplary when it comes to some of its early positions in response to this pandemic, but what is being highlighted by you and others for political reasons, is hardly the real failing of the WHO. They were just stating what appeared at that time to them, based on the information they had. The statement you quote is explicitly relaying what Chinese authorities had indicated at that point in time and doesn't even go as far as you want to imply ("no clear evidence" at that point in time), since "clear evidence" emerged and was reported even by the Chinese a few days after that statement.

Here is what the WHO actually dropped the ball on -- and something it stuck with for far too long. Not so much because it follows the "Chinese", but rather because in reality, it basically parrots the consensus among European governments. Like many European governments, the WHO was against travel restrictions for too long -- and actively advising they are not necessary. I believe the WHO had good intentions, but they were allowing those 'good intentions' to skew their advice on public health issues. And that is not right.

They have dropped the ball on a couple of other points, including the 'face mask' issue, again largely reflecting what happens when someone's conception of 'good intentions' allows them to fiddle with the best facts and science might be saying. A lot of governments and organizations were worried about a rush by people to buy face masks, and a huge shortage of these face masks, and they all collectively tried to say face masks weren't advised unless you (yourself) were coughing. While that is not entirely false in some ways, the truth is that face masks do have some limited utility both for the carrier and for those who might be exposed to the virus by asymptomatic transmitters. My own view is that instead of 'fiddling with the science', its best for the WHO to stick to the facts and (if they are worried about a rush to purchase face masks) encourage a public awareness campaign to show that the limited benefits would outweigh the potential harm.

 

But if the information they had wasn't enough, or if they weren't confident in the information they had, they either A: Should not have said anything at all or B: Stress that the situation is ongoing and that this could change. By giving governments the false sense of security(also: Human to human contact was observable for the Wuhan doctors individually.) It just didn't get out because: China.

What we learned more than anything is that China is deceitful, lying, manipulative and is not an equal nation among us. We should deal with that government accordingly.

 

I respectfully disagree because (a) the WHO is not supposed to play arbiter as to who is to believed or not. As an international organization, they will (and are duty bound) to report what other health officials in other countries report'; and (b) the WHO did not adopt, as its own policy and guideline, this notion that the virus cannot be transferred from humans to other humans. When it came to its own guidelines, it took the wait and see attitude you suggest. And, finally, (c) because I am not sure whether the evidence of human-to-human transmission was "clear" to Chinese authorities on January 14. The Chinese reported such transmission a few days later, which suggests that on January 14, they may still had some doubts on the issue. Maybe the doubts were unfounded in hindsight, but to announce with absolute certainty that this virus can be transmitted from human-to-human contact would also have a lot of repercussions if that information turned out false.

The WHO, in my opinion at least, is ultimately responsible for its own failings, not for correctly reporting what others are saying. WHO does issue its own guidelines and policy positions. And some of them (as mentioned in my earlier post) have been misguided when it comes to this pandemic. But saying that officials from "X" country (it could be any other country) have not reported "clear evidence" of something, isn't taking a policy position. But passing along information which should be passed along, not withheld, as that would cause even more issues than you imagine.

That is, my take. As for blaming China, I think we should all wait before we play the 'blame game' regardless of who it is we are trying to assign the blame to. I just don't think that is the real issue in the middle of a pandemic. There will be plenty of time for that.

In the meantime, despite all my admonitions to the contrary, my wife does occasionally vent off her frustrations at the Chinese. Particularly their culinary habits and such. So I understand the sentiment, even though I don't agree with it.

 

Old hotness: Trump knew about this in November and did nothing!

New hotness: Nobody knew nothing in January, so of course no one did anything!

I love the way you guys switch talking points without even taking a breath.

 

It seems like you understand the issue well enough, but refuse to draw any conclusions from what you know. Key is your statement, "...but rather because in reality, it [WHO] basically parrots the consensus among European governments."

So you seem to know that the WHO, rather than a coterie of favor minded scientists who are only interested in the truth borne out by data, is a political operation with a phony mask of public health as it's cover. But you won't admit it.

I agree that the WHO should stick with facts rather than to lie about them for other reasons (such as with the face masks) but that's only going to happen if there is a major housecleaning within that organization, something you don't seem to have much interest in.

 

Possible good news out of a San Francisco laboratory named https://www.distributedbio.com/ having done historic work on HIV and influenza has found an antibody vaccine against the Covid-19 by using scientific understanding of the virus' cousin SARs. The first version vaccine will only last eight weeks per dose and could not be manufactured in mass before September. Approval by the military and other institutions is required before testing and mass production.

'Pandemic' scientist Dr. Glanville makes breakthrough on Covid-19 cure
" "I'm happy to report that my team has successfully taken five antibodies that back in 2002 were determined to bind and neutralise, block and stop the SARS virus," Dr Glanville told Checkpoint. "We've evolved them in our laboratory, so now they very vigorously block and stop the SARS-CoV-2 [Covid-19] virus as well. "This makes them suitable medicines that one could use once they've gone through human testing to treat the virus," Dr Glanville said."

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When we tally up all the expense, grief and hate the New Democrat Socialist Party has caused America, from Judicial nominee scams to impeachment, to FISA abuse, to now inflating fears over the China virus.....I think it is time for some serious back lash!