Taking our country back? I dont get it. Please explain

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  1. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    whats wrong is that we have a biased media and an uninformed population. we are looking more and more like Cuba or the pre-breakup soviet union every day.
     
  2. ragin cajun

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    well you are wrong about me. but thats ok, think whatever you want. I don't know what the truth is about the killing of JFK, neither do you.

    I would like to know the truth, but for some reason the warren commission felt that the truth would damage the country.

    My OPINION is that LBJ may have been involved, but that just my opinion. If I am wrong I will readily admit it.
     
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    Really? I want you to SERIOUSLY imagine it's 2038....for DECADES you've held the belief that LBJ was "involved" in the death of the President (I note you aren't as firm with your "LBJ killed Kenndy" claim now???)...

    the Warren Commission records are unsealed and .....LBJ is completely exonerated or more likely, not even mention as a conspirator. In fact, what if there is...NO conspiracy. The reason for the sealed records was out of fear that the public would panic if they thought a lone nut could kill a President at any time...without some well-thoughtout and intricately-planned and coordinated plan by a group of powerful individuals.

    How would you react? You ACTUALLY going to say you'd just "set it all down and walk away from it"...after years and years and years and years of belief in the Grand Conspiracy???

    Consider this...suppose an archeologist found the bones of "Yeshua bin-Yusef" in a cave. And definitively proved that the remains were that of a son of a Nazarene carpenter, in his early 30s, who had been tried and crucified by the Roman proconsul Pontus Pilate, buried in the cave....and yet here were his bones, proving once and for all that He did NOT rise from the grave?

    Would a Christian just "set aside" their beliefs in Christ and the Resurrection?

    Or deny the evidence?

    It's the same type of scenario.
     
  4. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    two totally different questions and scenarios.

    first if I make it to 2038 I will be very happy, or maybe too senile to know if I am happy or not, But if I am around and the report exonerates LBJ I will accept that, but if it says that he was behind it will you accept that?

    As to your Jesus question, no one said that our bodies and bones rise and go to heaven, quite the contrary, the soul is not make of flesh, blood, and bones.
     
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    The Bible says Jesus was resurrected in the flesh again. Hard to show up to Peter and the boys if you're a blob with no bones in it.

    Make it more secular if you like and INCLUDE a conspiracy....suppose you are a Ronald Reagan fan....and at some point in the future, "sealed records" are released from Beijing, that show The Gipper was a "Manchurian Candidate" of the Red Chinese, brainwashed during a visit in the 50s to Korea, planted to become a Governor and then President

    and with the purpose of destroying the previous paradigm of American political/financial policy that you can't cut taxes, cause massive deficits, and not eventually pay back the lost revenues....

    and create a situation where an ideology of "Protect the rich, screw the poor" takes root and destroys the country from the inside?

    Both a revelation of an evil intent involving a beloved figure of the Right...and of their own ideology?

    Would they believe it.....or still hold on desperately to "Reaganism" and claim the evidence was false?


    How many times has the Roswell Crash been proven false....yet none of its adherents stop believing? How many still believe Elvis is alive? (How many might continue to believe even as The King's birthday hits the century mark?) How many waatch "Hunting Bigfoot" on "Animal Planet"....and never see one bit of evidence...but still believe?
     
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    seems like you must have missed your dose of paxil last night, maybe take a double dose today.

    You are correct that some people hold on to myths regardless of proof that they are false. Kind of the way you liberals continue to believe in liberalism even though it has failed miserably every place it has ever been tried.

    As to Elvis, I heard that he was living in Costa Rica with Marilyn Monroe and Jimmy Hoffa---------prove that he isn't !
     
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    I will make a Mitt Romney "$10,000 bet, Governor? $10,000 bet?" ....that IF (see? being open-minded) the records are unsealed and they show that Oswald acted alone or even just that there was no connection from LBJ to Kenney's death...

    you won't believe it and will contradict your claim to "fair-mindedness".
     
  8. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    Geez, get a life. I will accept whatever comes out when the entire story is told. Can we move on now?
     
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    Sure...what does "take our country back" mean exactly to the Right? Back to ...when?
     
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    we have been over this, it does not mean take it back in time, it means take it back FROM the liberals and progressives that are destroying our economy and our culture.

    Get it now? BACK FROM, NOT BACK TO.
     
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    So it's some "Utopia" which has NEVER existed in this country? But would "in the future"?
     
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    That is ALWAYS going to be the elites' position when they want to retain power in the face of overwhelming democracy.
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A bit laboured, Mi Owd. Keep trying! :)

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    Capitalists own you, and your government, and your heads and your bodies. Democracy?
     
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    and you are owned by a very small group of super elites that control all of the power and all of the money, you are slaves to your socialist leaders because you have conceded that they know more than you do. its really a pathetic display of human ignorance.

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    Hardly, a biased media is the primary tool of the left. Passing out its lies is the only way they can maintain control. Obama owns most of the media, and you are just fine with that, have you no brain?
     
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    What socialist leaders, you extraordinarily ignorant and brainwashed fellow? Do you live in Mars, or what? Capitalists control all the money, man, plus your brain and your body. O-B-E-Y!
     
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    Sorry, what was the cable "news" network that was telling people "the polls are skewed" and "Romney's going to win in a landslide"???
     
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    Don't have a biased media of your own? After all the $billions you've spent on one? Here's $10. Go buy yourself a media.
     
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    obviously either they were wrong or the election was corrupt. but fewer people voted for obama this time than the first time, more people stayed home because they did not like either candidate. Yes, your guy won, but don't be crowing too loud. He does not have the support of a majority of americans.

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    No, but can send me money if you want. PM me and I will tell you where to send it.

    a few fox commentators and a few radio guys do not come near to balancing the left wing MSM and print media. We both know that.
     
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    None of that touched the point, ragin. That you guys LIVE AND DIE by a cable "news" network so biased...it actually FOOLS its audience by denying reality.

    I don't remember once when Rachel Maddow said "That poll showing Romney up in Virginia is completely false" or saying "The President is going to win Texas, Georgia, Alabama and South Carolina" (the leftwing equivalent of talking about "Romney landslides")

    And if Obama had lost....and Rachel had made such predictions....her audience and MSNBC's audience would PLUMMET because its audience would see the network as totally untrustworthy....

    yet the ever-so-much-more brilliant minds on the Right?.....still tune into Fox.

    Hell, a year from now, I wouldn't be surprised to see rightwing posters here citing DICK MORRIS as authority for what's going to happen in the 2014 midterms.
     
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    No, we don't know that. The right wing has unbelievable reserves of cash, much more than the left wing. Make a right wing MSM. Problem is, you don't have a message that people want to listen to.
     
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    Above you state that the capitalists own everything including the government. Don't you think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the capitalists are socialists? Maybe a flow chart would help.
     
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    sorry, but you are off base again. Fox has a huge audience, MSNBC has a tiny market share. Can you cite a single left wing radio talk show that has been successful? But the left controls, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NY times, LA times, DC post, Atalnta GC, and most other city papers, not to mention Time, Newsweek, and other magazines.

    The balance is not even close. It should be, but its not.
     
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    So on one hand you claim Fox has a huge audience and no liberal shows are sucessful....but on the other hand you claim "Everything else is liberal"....right? So everything else but Fox ...is a failure?!?!?!?
     
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    amazing lack of reading comprehension being displayed by you. Fox and talk radio have an audience because they are filling a void that the MSM does not address-------------giving both sides a fair hearing.

    I said that no liberal talk radio shows have been successful, the MSM has been quite successful---------after all, they elected obama twice.
     
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    actually it was lost when the establishment sabotoged ron pauls campaine with last minute rule changes at the RNC convention to get their boy Romney the nomination.we dont elect these people,they are SELECTED by the establishment.
     

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