Tesla share crash amid Republican bid to kill off electric car tax break

I am also unfamiliar with the logistics...it may be unfeasible or not necessary. We shall see...I'll just leave that to Musk and Buffet.

 

I am not a progressive. Or a con. I am an independent and a lover of free market economics.

I am against subsidies, tax breaks for EV's and I was STRONGLY AGAINST the low interest loan to Tesla in the first place.

But internal combustion engines are clearly not the future. They pollute, are ridiculously inefficient, incredibly expensive to maintain compared to EV's or fuel cell vehicles and require a dwindling, finite resource to run (oil).

I am not suggesting banning them or anything...but alternatives should be encouraged.

 

Time will tell.

 

NONSENSE.

look at the d &A expenses as COGs. Almost a billion points DIRECTLY to heavy capital investment in production infrastructure.

G&A is not at all astronomical. AND they have$3.5 billion cash on hand.

It appears you could benefit by brushing up on financial statement analysis.

 

It's far from dwindling. Panic has been fomented in the west, so that we find it more difficult to be happy, and can be more easily controlled. Like you, I want what is best, but at what cost?

They were given cash and low interest loans because folks are panicked. The government wants to appease. Businesses won't invest in something they know is of poor quality or will likely be a poor replacement.

Had there been a true need, they would not need the loans and welfare. They would invest their own, not yours and mine. The government must then, make new regulations banning certain emissions at a higher level, which seems to prove progressives correct, but is only done to force more folks to purchase these vehicles, so they can save their pride and elected positions.

It has very little to do with the environment. No, I do not want our earth ruined, but there is something called compromise and common sense.

 

So discussing what others have said is now a "strawman" to you? Again stop using terms you dont understand.

 

I doubt that, in the last month Tesla Motors stock dropped from $351 a share to $315. That's a 10% drop in just 30 days.

 

You are forgetting about the Unicorns that run on treadmills to power the truck.

 

Who is going to pay for the massive electrical infrastructure improvements required to fill the grid with power to charge all these electric big rigs?

 

The same folks that pay for diesel right now.

 

It will take far more than that. Without massive federal subsidies, the cost of adding capacity and equipment to balance the loads, will be difficult for individual operators to absorb themselves.

 

I have 3 requisites to buy an all electric vehicle. 1) It must be able to drive with everything on, lights, radio and heat or A/C as far as a gasoline powered vehicle with 4 full size passengers plus luggage. 2) At least 70% of existing gas stations must have quick chargers that will get me back on the road with 100% charge in 20 minutes or less. 3) There must be an on-board 1 or 2 cylinder gas fired emergency generator that will charge my vehicle in the middle of nowhere in less than 1 hour to full charge. Then it must be comparably priced to it's gas powered equivalent and I'd buy it. Make it and the buyers will come.

 

It may be you do not quite understand our electric capacity or grid, but the "Additional Load" would barely even be noticed.

 

Ahh so you are saying the folks paying for diesel is going to have to subsidise electric trucks?

 

Musk wants to use solar panels to power his elect refueling stations

But I bet he does not planny on pay for the panels himself

 

Bwahhahaa...you don't have a ****ing clue

 

Yes, the more we look the more hydrocarbon energy sources we find. There is a vast amount of methane clathrate stored in ice but no economical way to extract it.

There are also thresholds (with safety margins) below which materials have no effect on human health. We have evolved consuming small amounts of arsenic, thallium, lead, particulate matter, radiation, ..... To legislate levels significantly below these thresholds to accomplish an energy policy which results in higher energy prices which are regressive to low income people is immoral.

 

Nope...I am saying that people pay for the stuff they want and other people make it. We call that capitalism....ever heard of it?

 

Liberals used to push alternative energy at any cost because the academics told them we were almost out of fossil fuel

Now they need a new excuse

 

Golly...with that amazing and intricate explanation of our terribly limited electrical systems you have certainly put me in my place.

 

I understand loads, capacity, load shifting, and balancing the network. What would happen to the current capacity and generating power is all vehicles on the road today were pure electric?

 

You don't have a clue do you about our outdated electrical grid?

 

If that were to happen our capacity and Grid would collapse without the massive increases indicated. Fortunately that is not what will happen. The transition from Petroleum to electric in transport will be gradual as were all transitions previously. When internal combustion came into play it took quite some time for the automobile to adapt away from electric and steam, but it most certainly did.

 

Our grid is indeed outdated and inadequate. It will however be upgraded as needed as it already is being to support the new renewable generation elements.

 

And you want diesel trucks to pay for it.

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