Texas GOP Chair Allen West says SCOTUS setback may call for new 'union' of 'law-abiding states'

We definitely need this. Just to define where we stand. The United States are not so united to the glory of China.

 

Shaun Vannity is about the lowest piece of Schiest in broadcasting.

 

It's hard to understand how you say that. Hunter has absolutely no ability aside from the "Big Guy". Actually, his transportation overseas was often in accompaniment of the "Big Guy". Testimony, recordings and Hunter's e-mails beg to differ with you. There was a pre-election black out on the subject but it is there.

 

There is no proof that young Biden did anything wrong nor did Old Biden. If fact there is no proof either did anything wrong. Bring up the proof the the bare accusations.

 

844,000 and change. That's the calculated number of hours the left spent crying about Pres Trump based on major nationally broadcast media and late night airtime alone. If we factor in man-hours spent developing print media we're over the 100 million mark. If we factor in social media, we're into the incalculable but my best guess is it cant be anything fewer than 1.8396e+12 hours.

Imagine being alive during the last 4 years and then thinking anyone, at any point in history, for any reason whatsoever, has cried more than the left.

 

You no darn well that is not for me to do. It is for our justice system to overcome "Deep State" interference and put it on display for all to see. Somehow, I believe it will be done.

 

You sure about that?

 

This isn't even close. The reaction from the Trumpists here has been far, far worse.

 

I'm sure this nation's whine-o-meters are pretty much all crumpled hunks of wire and metal since November.

The more important issue is whether we can come to an understanding of what form of government we want.

So far, I see absolutely no form of government that Republicans would accept and attempt to make work.

It pretty clearly doesn't have anything to do with democracy, republic, congress as designed by our founders, equality of citizens, checks and balances, etc.

How can reach agreement on anything at all when the Republican party has NO interest in making federal government successfully work the way it was designed?

 

I don’t. Yet.

 

That’s a delusional viewpoint.

 

When did Hillary concede vs when did Trump concede?
When did Obama begin transfer of power vs when did Trump?
How many votes did Clinton go to court to try to nullify vs the millions that Trump has gone to court to nullify?
When did Obama fire anyone for saying that Trump won and that the election wasn't rigged?
When did any of Clinton of Obama's lawyers call for the death of said fired individual for the "crime" of saying Trump won?
How many of Obama's appointees did he and Clinton accuse of being part of a vast conspiracy to make her lose?
How many governors or legislators did Clinton or Obama call or invite to the White House to try to get them to nullify the votes of their states?
How many Democrat lawmakers joined in to Clinton's (non-existent) effort to convince the courts to overturn the election?

The viewpoint I shared is the truth. The fact that it is inconvenient for your politics does not make it "delusional." Please join us back in reality and, when you do, see if you can get the President to do so as well.

I've long argued on this site that both parties have their crazies, but that the crazies don't represent either party. Trump has proven me wrong.

 

Good ! But what does "yet" mean in your answer?

 

And, when I vote in my state, THAT is what Trump calls "overplaying my hand".

Thus, the only option YOU and Trump have is to assault our democracy.

I still need from you some idea of what form of government you would be willing to support.

Because whatever you and your pal Trump want is nowhere close to what our founders designed for us.

 

I'm not sure if you remember November of 2016 when students all over the country staged massive school walk-outs protesting Trump winning. I don't feel like linking the stories so just Google "students walking out of school 2016 trump win" and see the stories you'll get. And don't even get me started on those Hollywood Half-Wits.

Are you seriously gonna tell me that these same whine-o-meters are as high now as then? C'mon.

 

And every one of those hours was deserved. It wasn't so much crying as it was rightly criticizing a repugnant wannabe dictator. Imagine a president who uses the office to spread baseless conspiracy theories and on election night cries about massive, widespread fraud but can't offer tangible evidence than affidavits that were screened using a captcha test.

When I said "this much," I didn't mean in terms of hours, but rather degree of crying. Republicans are threatening their own representatives if they don't stand with Trump to the very end. You have Trump meeting with legislatures attempting to invalidate the vote of millions and install loyal electors. You have the far right threatening lawmakers and secretary of state for simply doing their job. Yea no, liberals did not put this much effort into crying when Trump won.

 

Students aren't party leaders. They aren't even adults. Yes, the whine-o-meter is much, much higher now than it was then, given the fact that it has completely enveloped the leadership of the party and they have fought to actually invalidate millions of votes and overturn the election. Plus, student walkouts hardly compare to the death threats coming now.

 

I haven’t decided yet. Too much democrat overreach and I’ll get back to you.

 

Yet you are fine with the dramatic overreach from the GOP seeking to invalidate millions of votes. No need to get back to us. We know this isn't about any actual, legitimate standards.

 

I don't remember numerous congressmen, AGs, the president and others working to overthrow America's democracy.

I don't remember baseless claims of cheating having to be tossed by court after court after court.

I dont remember white supremacists showing up wih assault rifiels on Wisconsin's capitol steps, calling for the execution of their governor.

I don't remember Hillary calling on governors and others to cancel democracy in their states.



So, no - I think your whine is a really sick joke on America.

And, I'd like to know what form of government YOU YOURSELF would be willing to work to make successful.

Because, it sure the hell isn't what our founders designed.

 

The source was the New York Times. If it was anyone's wet dream it was John Podesta's.

Also ewwww.

 

Are you saying it was an NYT opinion piece? I seriously doubt you on that.

I don't remember the NYT every expressing that kind of opinion. They report the news - as opposed to thinking that they ARE the news.

 

For chrissakes, I included the link to the NYT piece in my post, and no...it wasn't an opinion piece, it was reporting. This was posted about pretty extensively here when that story originally broke so I'm surprised you missed.

 

It was a complete non-starter then, and it is a complete non-starter now.

 

Did it include documentation of a months long federally coordinated effort to end our democracy?

Did it include a federally dissmissed armed assault on the government of Wisconsin, complete with death threats against its governor?

I don't think you have ANY idea of what the issues are in this thread.

The curent Republican vogue of assaulting our very form of government is the problem.

And, with the history of the Republican party through the tea bag folks, etc., the question today is whether there is ANY form of government that Republicans would be willing to help make successful.

Because, whatver that form of government might be, it sure as hell isn't anything we got from our founders.