Texas man files legal action to probe ex-partner’s out-of-state abortion

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  1. Bluesguy

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    So pay some do not how does anything you say above prevent woman from allowing her baby to live to be put up for adoption?
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No I covered them all feel free to elaborate.
     
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    Then I guess it was intentional as you had not proper response.
     
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    ah, good deal, thought maybe the court blocked her from leaving as he filed suit before it happened, but still shows the courts are too slow and not set up to make these decisions in a speedy manner, especially in states that limit to 6 weeks

    "As soon as Collin Davis found out his ex-partner was planning to travel to Colorado to have an abortion in late February, the Texas man retained a high-powered antiabortion attorney — who court records show immediately issued a legal threat."
     
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    and many Christian adoption centers won't give babies to non-Christians or LGBTQ parents
     
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    My paternal instincts didn't kick in until birth, but maybe for somebody who believes they're persons from conception, it could kick in earlier. I mean, there can come a point when their welfare is the most important thing in the world - more important than having money, even more important than finding the right person to be with when that was previously the most important thing. I always wanted kids, but I never anticipated how important my kids would be to me before I had them.
     
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    A BARRIER because they are seperate unique individual human beings the baby is never a part of the mother. It's called osmosis.
     
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    Both, the neonate and fetus, are classified as children, which are offspring of any age and stage.
     
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    You appear to have a very low opinion of women, healthcare workers and many others but then what should I expect from people who support an adjudicated rapist
     
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    But this is not about that. The core of this is whether or not someone in one state can sue healthcare workers in another state for carrying out a health related procedure
     
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    Well, if they are “separate” and please reference where you have found that, after all the placental barrier is far less impervious than the blood brain barrier and we do not consider the brain as a separate entity. But the question is why this is even an issue and the answer is to try and bolster the claim that banning abortion will not affect maternal morbidity and mortality, now I have given you links to recognised medical text in relation to this - do you really want to continue a losing argument??
    Oh BTW “osmosis”?? Let me roll my eyes back to normal please as the truth is waaaaay more complex than that

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/315...s the only,the maternal and fetal circulation.
     
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    What has “adoption” to do with domestic violence??
     
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    Mate - I am happy to back my statement are you prepared to back yours?
    https://research.hks.harvard.edu/publications/getFile.aspx?Id=861
     
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    What does domestic violence have to do with this case?
     
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    Everything. This law is a gift to any situation where there is “coercive control” and coercive control is a cornerstone of DV. In simple terms he is saying “you got an abortion against MY wishes so I will hurt everyone tha5 helped you.”
     
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    You tell me you are the one trying to turn this into a discussion about domestic violence. If you want to discuss domestic violence why don't you start a thread on it.
     
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    If they were not sepearte the mothers antibodies would attack and kill the baby and the mixing of the blood types could possibly kill both. GEEEEZ that is the PURPOSE of the placenta to keep the two unique human individuals physically separate. Nutrients, gases and waste products pass through the membranes, by the process of OSMOSIS, which keep them separate. Biology 101. Embryology 101.

    Cite me one medical or science textbook that teaches the baby in the womb is a part of the mother and they are the same individual until some point in time.

    It was YOU who made the fallacious assertion

     
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    Poverty doesn’t give a woman a right to kill a man’s child. I support this lawsuit 110%
     
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    So, let’s say that abortion was for medical reasons - do you still support the lawsuit? What if, as I contend, the underlying motive is coercive control as part of domestic violence - still supportive?
     
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    ((Sigh))). Sorry but you are still in error. It in NOT “osmosis” although that plays a part, but only a part! This is so frustrating because you have glommed onto one idea and don’t even understand that fully.

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    https://www.sciencefacts.net/diffusion.html
    For a start you are conflating osmosis with diffusion so let’s not start with “active transport” :roll:

    https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/bmm-2017-0055
     
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    That’s obviously not the topic of this thread
     
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    YES osmosis is the name of the bio-mechanical process and everything you have posted only supports the fact that the two living beings are separate human beings and the baby is never a part of the mother. Your simply being argumentative now.
     
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    Oh! Yes it is - it goes to her motive for the abortion - something that may end in court. Meantime Collarado has a shield law preventing people from being sued if they come to Colorado for an abortion
     
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    Stop digging the hole is already too big! Again you have conflated osmosis with diffusion ignored active transport and have no way of explaining how foetal blood cells end up in maternal circulation. IF they are two “separate human beings” with the foetus having no impact on the mother then please explain why we cannot do foetal transplants
     

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