Thank you, Lincoln Project

I'll defend your right to think whatever you wish.

 

You can't defend crap when you don't know how the process for legislation works.

 

When most of the decisions you make are mandated by the government it may be your name on the front of the building but it isn't your policies and ideas that are being implemented, it is the government's. And more often than not it's the ideas of same nameless and faceless and therefore unaccountable bureaucrat who understands neither you nor your business, nor your customers who will then blame you when those unworkable and absurd policies go wrong.

 

Please see my response to Lucifer above

 

The argument broke down because Trump has a big military budget? I'm sure they applaud the budget, but hate the fact that this President has successfully kept us out of engagements. Engagements that they're eager to get back to, and are well aware that Joe Biden will get them back to. We will get Washington as we knew it for the last 50+ years.

Ignoring the people, paying themselves, paying people under the table. We'll go to war for some "cause", what that cause is will be determined later if in fact at all. We're cattle for the military industrial complex, as Eisenhower warned about. The most persistent lobbying group in America, far more powerful than citizens united, and once we put them back in, they'll have an even tighter grip on power.

And yes, the world wants that America. The America of being a piggybank, or a glorified mercenary army for other nations. If we the people yearn for this as what we are, the hollowed out spirit will continue as we all remember what that pitiful life was, is and always will be for us.

 

All power is not supposed to reside in DC the Dems since 1932 having been working to change that. That is, in essence, the fundamental abandonment of the country's founding.

 

What does any of this have to do with the Lincoln Project?

 

Thanks for the illuminating conversation. Maybe you'll figure it out. Until then, God bless you, and God bless the USA!

 

Just about every aspect of our lives is regulated. If it weren't for regulation, you'd be at risk for bankruptcy, poisoning, having your house fall on you because of lack of construction standards, you'd be unable to travel safely, invest, or take your medications as intended. That is what regulation does. The only time in US history where there was little if any regulation was during the latter half of the 19th century, what we call the westward expansion. What ended it was people wanting law and order and the same conveniences as those who live in the bigger cities.

 

Please note this is the same group of K state operatives that have been mad at Trump ever since Bush ended his campaign which, rather than being aimed at a Republican base he neither cared about nor understood, was designed to suck up all the oxygen, aka donor money, in the room. Trump not really needing the big donor bucks showed the inherent weakness of the Bush strategy and of Bush himself as a candidate and made those people look like the bunch of self important jackasses the really are. For that alone they will never forgive him.

Oh and by the way, as more and more evidence comes out is increasingly clear the the real corruption and criminal behavior in 2016 had a D behind the name

 

I'm sure that is real "Christian" of you.

 

Can I bring you a casserole?

 

Nonsense ninety percent of regs exist to feed trial lawyers. They don't make anyone safer because you cannot idiot proof the world. Idiots can think of stupid things to do faster than even Dem bureaucrats can write rules.

 

~ Speaking of crap - the best thing the Trump administration can do is completely eliminate the unconstitutional ACA and start over. Premiums and deductibles went up; choice of plans went down; millions went off health insurance completely. Democrats cry "Preexisting conditions!"- that could have easily been solved without a 900 page
unsustainable catastrophe .
All Obama Care did was "care" to make the insurance industry more money .

 

I don't think there should be a war on poverty or drugs or any other made up war to fix some issue. It never works.

Why hasn't Rs ended any of those wars when they had the power?
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/poverty-rate

The rate is at 2%. Where is ended up at after the great recession ended.
In 2007 it stood at 1.7%. Same rate is was in 1974.

What unforseen results are you speaking of?

 

Refuse?
There's a national campaign going on at the moment. Not a single word about the republican or trump plan on health insurance/ health care. It should be front and center.

 

Give 2 facts about trumps great health care plan. And how he will implement this plan no one's heard of.

 

Most of my choices on healthcare have little to nothing to do with gov't. My employer pretty much dictates my choices.

Now you might be on gov't healthcare. So it's different for you.

But for the majority of Americans, their healthcare decisions are based on their employer from pvt companies. Same with most business people.

 

And the choice you employer gives you are dictated to him by the insurance company who is in turn dictated to by the government.

 

Republicans do more spending than democrats.
Some of the biggest spenders have been republicans.

Every program meant to help American people have been helping those in need. Republicans have never ended any of the good programs.
In fact, Reagan was the last president to tax more on the FICA. To keep it solvent longer.

Republicans don't decrease the size of gov't. Not sure they ever have done that.
So, I don't buy the BS about all power is going to DC and the Dems are doing it.

Helping citizens of the country is not abandonment of the founding. You've been ill informed.

 

Each State has their own requirements. Not mandated by the federal gov't.
That's why companies like BCBS has offices in every state. You don't think insurance companies need to be regulated?

 

To some extent yes but not to the extent they currently are especially where group plans are concerned. One should have far more latitude in decision you make for your health care. And bear in mind sometimes legal cases can dictate what your insurance company can sell your boss.

 

Not if you still want the mechanism of private insurance. And I can attest to the fact that the "insurance industry" is NOT making money hand over fist on this one. I know because it is my business to know.

 

I call those republicans, Neocats.

 

I call such Republicans by the term neocrats.