The actual planning of the Pentagon attack from a truther's POV...

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    What does?

    Why in the world would I need to do that? Neither I nor anyone else (other than those who were intimately involved) can explain what exactly happened at the Pentagon.

    As Koko posted and I will be just as direct, there is absolutely no reason for me to be required to have an explanation for what happened at the Pentagon whether I agree or disagree that AA77 impacted the Pentagon. And I never claimed I disagree that AA77 impacted the Pentagon, I simply am completely dissatisfied with the official explanation which is not based on any legitimate investigation. It's a story one can only accept on faith as you have done. The key is that no one has ever proven beyond doubt the official claim that AA77 impacted the Pentagon. Everything about the official story (including the Pentagon massacre) stinks the putrid smell of a coverup. It isn't my job to prove or disprove anything or to concoct some alternate story. It is absolutely the job and the mandated duty of the US government to prove beyond any doubt their claim that AA77 impacted the Pentagon. All the shenanigans conducted by the US government strongly point to their story being a lie. If it wasn't a lie, they would have been able to prove it beyond any doubt. And this is exactly what I meant by transparency. They've done everything in their power to suppress evidence including wholesale denials of FOIA requests for illegitimate or no reason at all.
     
  2. Adam Fitzgerald

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    The evidence i provided in numerous posts shows American Airlines Flight 77 impacted the pentagon. You can disagree all day long, but unless you can show otherwise it wont change the facts in your favor. All you have done is disagree, well provide evidence that shows otherwise. Its basically as easy as i outlined. I have Koko blocked so i dont know or care what he says. You claim the government conducted shennigans, prove it in this regard.
     
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  3. Kokomojojo

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    Here you said you are a hard evidence guy and you dismiss out of hand the FACT that no bonafide evidence exists. I asked for HARD evidence, you gave us nothing.
    Something is very wrong with that picture dont you think?

    Awesome, I can post with impunity!

    Hey Bob, sound familiar? So we have ignoring the tough questions forcing one to repeat then ignoring repeats, what a racket!

    When the going gets to tough the tough get going.....otta town! LOL

    Hey Adam et al, this is what a debris field from a real plane looks like:

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    Oh look it has BIG wheels, main landing gear and BIG engines.

    not the little tinker toys you and beta posted as 'evidence'
     
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  4. Bob0627

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    You haven't provided any evidence in any post that shows AA77 impacted the Pentagon, no one has. You are just posting unsupported claims repetitively and I don't need to prove a negative or get into reverse burden of proof malarkey, that is as ludicrous as it gets. I can also make claims all day long and insist that I've proven Santa and the Tooth Fairy are real and transpose the burden of proof to you to prove me wrong. This not a valid approach to a discussion. I have no idea why you're even attempting to convince me. Sorry but your repetitive Pentagon claims no longer interest me. I've been through this merry go round with many other OCT defenders/apologists and you haven't come up with anything unique, it's the same old tired routine. You can put me on ignore too if that helps gives you some weird level of comfort that the official narrative is true and all posters who deny it should no longer exist for you. You've only been here since Sunday yet you've already blocked several posters who disagree with you. It seems to me you're terrified of posters who disagree with you and can't handle their posts.
     
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    Im not here to convince you. I supported my stance that American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. You however have echoed that i did not. Thats fine, but dont exclaim that you refuted anything because you havent. I have the eyewitnesses who saw the American Airlines Boeing crash into the building, i have the debris evidence which showed it belonged to an American Airlines Boeing, and i have the NTSB flight data path transcript which showed said plane takeoff from Dulles and to the impact of the Pentagon. You however are left with.....what exactly? I block posters who repeat themselves and insult....so far you have been cordial.Terrified? Goodness gracious i find those people embarrassing....but you do have a persistent problem...that you deny everything yet believe nothing...thats bordering on trolling if you ask me.
     
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    yep! the DDT! dirty debate tactics! Make an OP saying how rotten the gubmint is, blaming the opposition (troofers) for playing the DDT's they are about to post. Its a preemptive psychological strike used to emotionally disarm readers that no one falls for. They think they are being so sneaky too.
     
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  7. Bob0627

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    And I'm not here to go around in circles with you. If the Pentagon issue is the only one you want you want to discuss with me, I'm not interested in or buying your claims of proof so that would end that for me. There are many other topics with respect to 9/11 that I started threads on. Feel free to post whatever you like in those threads appropriate to those topics. Your repetitive claims of proof are not welcome and will not be entertained.
     
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    What are you here for?

    They aren't baseless claims they are evidenced claims. It is up to you to explain the evidence. Here is an example - a very poor one:

    None of the images are real, because magic fairies planted all the evidence.
    None of the DNA is real, because they are lying.
    None of the large number of witnesses are telling the truth because of a couple who vaguely contradicted them.

    Feel free to once again evade all the evidence and make the ludicrous claim of burden of proof.

    Irrelevant to this thread! How come not one of you truthers has actually responded to the OP. Collectively you have turned it into yet another off topic denial-fest. Way to go Bob. You're good at it.
     
  9. Adam Fitzgerald

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    I will in time post to those topics and i will create some of mine own as well. My repetitive claims of proof are indeed going to be posted because they are evidence to American Airlines Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon. However the only repetition i saw in this thread came from you Bob. Your adamant denial of the evidence was seen in multiple posts and in other previous threads as well. Now i know where you stand on this issue, which is no stand at all.
     
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    Sorry still irrelevant, boring and worthless. What you believe you know is meaningless to me.
     
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    Its meaningless to you because you cannot disprove anything i say.
     
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    This whole thing about such behaviour encompasses the entire spectrum of conspiracy theorists. They always fail to offer a better alternative to fit evidence. They ignore evidence. They repeat the same claims over and over.

    Not one of them will ever admit a single thing, it's just not in their nature.
     
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    I dont like to generalize, i give every individual the chance at explaining their position. But i have been reading many of the posts on here before i even started to comment. Most of the people who deny even the physical evidence, it seemed their only recourse was to personally admit all of it is false and offer absolutely no viable explanation. I would just simply rather weed out those who cannot have a discussion from those who can. Im not here to try and convert anybody, but i sure as wont entertain those who'se only agenda is to simply repeat themselves and offer no value to future discussion.
     
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    I'm not interested in trying to disprove your delusional beliefs that you've proven something about 9/11.
     
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    Then so be it. You will stay ignorant on this subject then.
     
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    Yet another delusional claim from the self proclaimed 9/11 "educator". You have yet to educate me about anything that has to do with 9/11. You have educated me about you though I'll give you that. Unfortunately it isn't flattering.
     
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    If anything i claimed was delusional it wouldnt be this hard for you to empirically disprove it. And your opinion about me is redundant. But this is all you were concentrating on since my OP, about me, this isnt about me...its about the information which you cannot address.
     
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    Not interested, sorry. When and if you have something interesting that I'd like to discuss with you, you'll know. Try another 9/11 topic perhaps, until then you can always discuss the "merits" of the OCT with your fellow OCT defenders/apologists. I'm sure they can offer you reassurances that the fairy tale is reality and any deviation from the party line is for the tin foil hat wearing crowd.
     
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    Its perfectly fine Bob, you should move on from this area. As for reassurances, i dont need a single person to adorn me with such. Im not here for an audience. Although some people certainly are in such desperate need for attention.
     
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    Yeah I probably should have never bothered posting in this thread given the idiotic title.
     

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