The Alt-Right

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The DNC HQ's is closed today because of Turkey Day but I'll try again Monday morning.
     
  2. notme

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    ????

    To blame the left-wing that there are white supremacists, is the approach that somebody else is responsible. That is what you're doing. But I'm glad to see you acknowledge that it is a joke of an argument. Nobody is to blame but the people who are like that. They are adults. Get real. lol.


    uhhh... "I can not help myself of being a nasty racist with violent tendencies your honor. The left wing made me do it!". Freaking hell. Sounds like an episode of Jerry Springer where such a knob is laughed at.
     
  3. For Topical Use Only

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    The inclusion of nazism. Look how it becomes matter of fact, normalised, acceptable, allowed.

    It's OK to have a nazi wing, it isn't everyone. Let's say, just the necessary jackboot? Law and order has to be maintained.

    But it's not so bad.

    He says he'll look out for the oppressed and downtrodden. Make it great again. A great nationalist nation of proud citizens united under those who think nazism isn't so bad.

    Give it a chance.
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do people like you think that flights of liberal fantasy represent fact?
     
  5. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    nationalists are patriots, they put country first.

    American nationalists support freedom of speech, since America is supposed to be free for all.

    the alt right allows white nationalist and nazi speech since that is American.
     
  6. rayznack

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    This will be fun.

    Which nationalist party doesn't tolerate non whites, and does that nation's laws tolerate that party's beliefs?
     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every country should be a nationalist country. Either you're proud of your country or are ashamed of your country.

    But nationalism goes further than patriotism.

    This is nationalism.

    America’s freedom is tied to her economic independence


    America’s political independence, Hamilton was saying, could not survive without economic independence.

    The foreign oligarchies and globalist are saying that globalization can't survive if any country has economic independence. That's why the oligarchies spent 1 1/2 years trying to take out Trump and failed.
     
  8. ThirdTerm

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    The alt-right largely exists on some known websites and it is not associated with real extremist groups in the US. I bet most of these alt-right posters are just trolling the Internet by writing things that can never be said in real life.
     
  9. AtsamattaU

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    Can't you judge people by the content of their character and by their actions?
     
  10. notme

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    Dunno what you're talking about. We basically just both established that blaming the mental problems of a grown man on others is rather pathetic.
     
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your wrong, they only came to prominence cause Trump played them for their votes
     
  12. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the liberal media.
     
  13. Space_Time

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    Here's 3 more:

    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Opinion...t-right-wing-populist-movement/1451479908081/

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    The seeds of the alt-right, America's emergent right-wing populist movement
    By George Michael, Westfield State University | Nov. 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM
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    Clockwise, from left: White nationalist William Pence, domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh, white nationalist Richard Spencer, British journalist Milo Yiannopoulos, professor Kevin MacDonald, and Breitbart News founder Andrew Breitbart. Photo courtesy Nick Lehr/The Conversation, CC BY-NC-SA
    In recent months, far-right activists -- which some have labeled the "alt-right" -- have gone from being an obscure, largely online subculture to a player at the very center of U.S. politics.

    Long relegated to the cultural and political fringe, alt-right activists were among the most enthusiastic supporters of Donald Trump. Earlier this year, Breitbart.com executive Steve Bannon had declared the website "the platform for the alt-right." By August, Bannon was appointed the CEO of the Trump campaign. In the wake of Trump's victory, he'll be joining Trump in the White House as a senior advisor.

    This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article.

    http://college.usatoday.com/2016/11/23/difference-between-alt-right-neo-nazi/

    The difference between 'alt-right' and 'neo-Nazi', explained

    By Olivia Dimmer 6:14 pm EST November 23, 2016
    alt right white nationalist
    People protest the appointment of former Breitbart News head Steve Bannon to be chief strategist of the White House by President-elect Donald Trump on November 15, near City Hall in Los Angeles, California. (AFP PHOTO / DAVID MCNEW)
    If you’ve even been following the news a little bit over the past few weeks, you should have encountered the term alternative right, or alt-right for short.

    But what about these other terms that are resurfacing in the wake of the election? What’s white nationalism, and how does it differ from white supremacy? Is the alt-right and neo-Nazi movement mutually exclusive, or one in the same?

    We talked with two experts on these subjects and had them break it down for you.

    So what exactly is the alt-right?

    “The alt-right is a loose movement, predominantly online, and largely anonymous,” George Hawley, a political scientist at the University of Alabama, said. “There is diversity of opinion among people that describe themselves as part of the alt-right, but most of the people who are energetically pushing the movement can be described as white nationalist.”

    The alt-right, Hawley says, is almost totally disconnected from the conservatism that we know today. They reject most mainstream conservative ideas, such as economics and foreign policy.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/11/23/503180254/is-it-racist-to-call-someone-racist

    Is It Racist To Call Someone 'Racist'?
    November 23, 20166:47 PM ET
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    A "beware racism" placard seen in New York's Grand Central Station. Is that racist?
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    Over the weekend, a sizable gaggle of the white nationalist "alt-right" convened at a federal building in Washington, D.C., to puff their chests. It was a motley crew, emboldened by the election of Donald Trump, with whom they shared a broad aversion to immigration and contempt for "political correctness." Their views were finally flitting around the mainstream of American politics.

    I guess that's why they were so touchy about their branding when my Code Switch teammate, Adrian Florido, asked a leader of the assembled group if they were using the "alt-right" label to camouflage views better described as racist.

    "As far as the term racist is concerned, it always had a pejorative connotation," answered Jared Taylor, a prolific white nationalist writer. "If racist were simply a neutral word ... fine. But that word cannot be retrieved or sanitized."

    If you needed another illustration of how the word racist has been defined so preposterously that nothing might ever meet the criteria, here it was. One of America's most prominent white separatists — a dude who dreams of a whites-only America and has called for the full repeal of the Civil Rights Act because it bars discrimination in private enterprise; a dude who was attending an event that ended in a chorus of Nazi cheers — was arguing against being labeled a racist because it makes his ideas sound distasteful.

    One of the many victories of the civil rights movement was casting racism as a moral failure of our society. But that's had the bizarre consequence of confounding the issue for many Americans, who have never been especially literate about race to begin with. That's how we've ended up in a place where anyone of any political stripe can use racist as a cudgel, no matter how outlandish the allegation. Just last week, Joel Pollak, the editor at large of Breitbart News, appeared on NPR's Morning Edition to defend Steve Bannon, the Trump adviser and former Breitbart editor, who once bragged about making that site the platform of the aforementioned alt-right.

    You probably know where this is going: Pollak defended his former boss by saying NPR programming is racist.
     
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    Don't you have any proof at all that Bannon is a racist? I want to see it please. Can you post it here so we all can see it?
     
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    Don't you have any proof Trump is a racist ? The man is 70 years old . We have seen many videos of Trump, heard many audio tapes of Trump. Yet I never heard anyone in the world call Trump a racist for 69 years of his life . Not one person. Yet the day he decided he was running for president of the United states of America, as a Republican, he automatically became a racist , bigot that hates Mexicans and women. Does anyone find this a little bit odd? I be waiting on that proof.
     
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    It is standard democrat operation playbook.
     
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    There's no stopping illegal immigrants until corporate America wants it stopped. Don't see it happening any time soon.
     
  18. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Government is in charge of the border not corporate America. A Hillary presidency certainly would not even try.
     
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    I don't think these guys will be visiting the White House as #BLM and #OWS leaders were wined and dined by Obama.
     
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    We're on record here. Any time frame for this alleged stopping?
     
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    Hillary? Never.
     
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    Alt-right...what are we dealing with, 1/100th of 1% ?

    Now the SPLC labels anyone who has ever gone to Brietbart News or supported or voted for Trump to be the alt-right. But the SPLC is a radical leftist hate group and are the alt-left. They spread hate and fear and keep numerous cans of Play Dough in their cupboards.

    What I noticed with those who do affiliate themselves with the alt-right is that they are all anti-semitic, they hate Jews and Israel and are holocaust deniers.

    I myself don't know anyone who hates Jews or are holocaust deniers.

    But... I do know many who love Palestinians and the Palestine state and hate Israel and they all have something in common...they are all liberals.
     
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    according to anyone that is being honest....
     
  24. Hoosier8

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    Which of course includes only the liberal media for you.
     
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    we will never know, but in 4 years we will know if Trump will stop it or not
     

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