The Alt-Right

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it includes anyone being honest, even faux news is sometimes honest

    I personally though try to stay away from partisan media like FOX and MSNBC

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    Dodge noted.
    Trumps time frame?
    Your expectation?
    Iit would be fairly easy. Fine the employees. Raid the businesses.
     
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    Are you so sure that only liberals care about Palestinians? I am older than dirt and I have known educated conservatives who cared about Palestine for 70 years.
     
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    First, why call those you speak of ... "liberals." They don't seem to be liberal to the Jews.

    I never yet understood Jews for Democrats. They must have money on their mind is all I am able to think of. Surely over freedom issues, they belong as republicans.

    Some believe Palestinians are entitled to a good deal of Israel. Some indeed want to root out the Jews and cast them into the sea if not killed outright.

    Who set up Israel in the first place? It seems back in the Roman era, it was the Italians kicking them out of Israel. Nobody stood up and rectified that until England did in the later 40s.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My advice to viewers of TV is if you watch FOX, and what you want is news, watch the left wing Spencer Smith who is a homosexual. Now, that in no way disqualifies the man. I happen to think that when he keeps out his personal feelings, his news reporting is top rate. Do they break the news on the Hannity or O'Reilly's program among others?

    When I watch C-span, much of that ends up discussion. They do what FOX does and presents both sides.

    But over time, since the departure of Jim McNeil and Leherer on PBS, they have gone to the Democrats side of the fence.

    Too bad too since once it was a very good program. Now it is a shill for the Democrats.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats waged open war against GW Bush over him fencing 700 miles of the border. I don't think, can be wrong if you give me facts, that Obama has extended the border fence. Bush had cash available for other improvements, such as night surveillance systems, and those do work very well. The Border patrol with no fence but electronics can nab almost every person attempting a border crossing, day or night., I thank Bush for that system.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [MENTION=63572]Margot2[/MENTION] has yet to reply.

    I am not shocked.
     
  8. LokiGragg

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    I doubt it's a response to decades of Identity Politics (which the alt-right engage in themselves) as most of the alt-right are also millenials, it'd be more accurate that it's a response to years of Identity Politics. They learned well from the Left in the ways of using social media and memes to drive their points. That's what I see drives many on the Left (primarily SJWs on the Left) crazy about the alt-right, they've managed to beat them at their own game.

    However, that was also due to the uncomfortable position many on the Left were put in, having to defend a President and a presidential candidate that are mired in (*)(*)(*)(*) (particularly the stench of Neoconservatism). Currently the SJWs are responding in the same way the Right reacted to Obama in '08, but after that's done and Trump is sworn in. Then the tables will turn and the Left will be in a more comfortable position from which to mount attacks.
     
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    The term or phrase "Alt-Right," has always confused me. Outside of an epithet to describe Trump supporters, it has never made much sense to me. Terms and phrases like right, the far right etc. used to describe conservatives is the norm. But a lot of true conservatives never supported Trump and quite often on this site I seen his supporters state Trump isn't a conservative, he is a populist, a nationalist and even a nativist.

    Can you enlighten me?
     
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    You can easily find Trump quotes and actions that are inherently derogatory based on appearance, race, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, etc. Plus, he picked Bannon as his chief strategist, and Bannon worked to establish Breitbart as the "platform for the alt right", which is group that prominently features these same opinions espoused by Trump.

    I don't really know why to waste time on this, do you?

    I mean, there isn't any unanswered question here.
     
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    And Europe is doing so well, now :roll:

    It's right to warn against fascism, but we have to remember how easy is to become fascist in doing so.
     
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    They won't, though. They deliberately (or via simple naivety) avoid looking at the quite large and growing group coming up. These kids are absolutely not racists, or homophobes, or conservatives, and will replace the dying old bigots within the next 10 years. Many of them are educated, liberal, and non-religious. They will be the future of the right. I can see plenty of reason there for leftists to be made very uncomfortable. This future group of adults puts the lie to many of the left's hackneyed devices of demonization.
     
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    No, the left only became aware of the alt-right very recently. This is the aforementioned naivety.

    SOOO out of touch. So disconnected from what's really going on ... especially with youth.
     
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    Yea, me too. such a worldly scholar!
     
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    They will only be able to mount attacks of any weight if they reduce the volume and dominance of the SJW extremists. They've stupidly allowed these dysfunctional children (and their adult enablers) a very loud voice, while in some sort of ego-seizure of virtue signalling. A drunken "next round's on me!" to the entire pub. No different to the right allowing free and dominant voice to the most extreme of their number.
     
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    No doubt, SJWs squandered whatever political capital they had gained when Obama took office. They squandered it on topics no one but the elderly care about anymore. Then they went full retard during gamergate, blm, and the myriad of other irrelevant topics or "issues". And then they went full retard again while cameras were recording and those videos posted online, further diminishing what little political capital they had left, then there's Hillary who catered to the SJWs. It's time (been time really) for the Left to drop SJWs from their ranks.
     
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    I think that there will be a long term and sustained political bloodbath behind the scenes of the DNC and among their supporting power brokers to indeed put the whacko extremist Social Justice Warrior factions INFESTING the Dem Party's upper hierarchy on the back burner while they wrench control of the party back entirely into their hands.

    It will be corrupt hands, of course. It will be Wall Street brokers hands and Globalist hands who will do ANYTHING for a buck and to accrue more power, but at least it will be sane hands.
     
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    Obama has been revolting over both OWS and BLM.
     
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    There are excellent reasons why 70 percent of all adults no longer trust the Mainstream Media when it comes to politics. The rabidly insane Left did it to themselves.
     
  20. Hoosier8

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    The real problem is you can't stay away from biased media, especially now when they often get their stories from the Internet. It is all biased one way or another. I watch CBS and they have their own bias. Sometimes it is apparent but most often it is subtle.

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    I expect a framework first. The last wall was never completed.
     
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    B-B-But it's NEVER WRONG when leftists do it!"
     
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    Can't really because the alt- right isn't any one thing. You are right that it is millenials.
     
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    The first I heard of the term Alt-Right was when Hillary Clinton figured she could stampede minority support into the voting block by equating the entire Right with them. This was not long before her infamous 50% Deplorables in a Basket broadside, which immediately blew up in her face.

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    Well yes . . . which is why so very much of the nation just finished rejecting . . . the . . . Left.
     
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    ah, so your saying this was a secret the right was keeping from us

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    alt-right means the racist right... as in .. not the normal right (the alternate right).... no one should support the alt-right

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    yes, but fox and msnbc are partisian to the core....

    now with Trump will be interesting as I think many from all sides will not like much of what he does... even fox

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