The Alt-Right

Considering that it is the chronically lying Left making up that definition who the hell can believe anything they say about the Right? Hell the New York Times was again caught lying about what Trump actually said in a meeting. If not for a recording the nation would be inclined to believe the NYT. So with the Left the lies never end.

 

2017 or 2020 and the next campaign promise?

 

I offer this book for posters to study.

 

That is why it is called the establishment media.

 

Democrats go full bore berserk to stop a wall. They proved it when Bush was president.

 

Bobby...there will be no wall. Trump has already crossed that nonsense off

 

What are the common elements that qualify you as one of "all nationalists"?.

 

Hatred of brown people?

 

And then the only hope for the Left is an overhaul of the DNC, similar to the TEA Party, alt-right, and Republicans.

 

I guess the rededication of the NY Times to truth and objectively reporting correctly didn't work out to well for them. Did it?

New York Times publisher vows to ‘rededicate’ paper to ...
https://omnitalk.wordpress.com/2016...ws-to-rededicate-paper-to-reporting-honestly/
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Mexican Company Offers To Build Trump's Wall - Your News Wire
http://yournewswire.com/mexican-company-offers-to-build-trumps-wall/
A Mexican cement manufacturer has offered to help ... Mexican cement maker ready to help Trump build border wall ... asphalt and building materials in ...

 

LOL. You have your excuse already.
We don't need a wall to stop illegal immigration. Enforce the laws already on the books.
No jobs, no immigrants.

 

This open borders free trade globalization is an issue that FDR progressives can agree with the alt right on. For this older progressivism represented the best interests of working and middle class americans, which is the backbone of America. And that makes the anti open borders free trade which is just a scheme to bottom out wages worldwide, bring us down to them. People left and right started to wake up to see it as another scheme, but one that is hollowing out America. It is treasonous to the back bone of America. It creates an array of problems, social, economic, fiscal. It also gave us sanders and trump and a change election.

 

no, that just means Trump has done a lot of things neither side likes

 

Actually yes, it just means Trump has done many things the elite and uni-party doesn't like.

 

He only enabled people to openly hate instead of having to hide it.

 

Hey...I'm a liberal but if you want to shovel a couple billion my way I'll build you a wall..

 

Can you compete with the manufacturer and deliver high grade concrete required by the Corps of Engineers? Do you even know what a slump test is?

 

Here is how that works today. Illegals are not eligible to hold jobs. If only Democrats would enforce the law.

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I know what a slump test is. LOL

It will be the rare Democrat that knows though.

 

According to the left, conservatives who earned a bachelor degree in the sciences (BS) are uneducated and are stupid and liberals who earned a degree in the liberal arts (BA) are smart even though they can't use that BA degree to make a living in the real world (private sector)

The civilized world lives by the "law of Nature" and the state of Israel has established itself as being a legitimate sovereign nation under the "Law of Nature" The Palestine's / Arabs had over two thousand years to do so and failed,

 

Hide what exactly? The fact that the progressives will not discuss Immigration on an intellectual basis?

Fact is progressives will not discuss or explain the merits of open borders and unfettered illegal immigration. The left has no cogent explanation for its policy of open borders. The lefts only retort is that the right is racist. For the left that's where the argument ends

I no longer cotton that attempt at simple dismissal.

Let us discuss the merits of immigration. Let us honestly discuss the negatives with each culture involved. Let us compare and contrast the various cultures visavis western culture seeking entry into the United States.

Let's keep it collegial.

Cheers

 

And in accordance with your well-respected wish for academia, let's discuss it. US Immigration from 1900's-1963(LBJ's term). Immigration in the US had historically been thorny and the US-European ties weren't always strong(See: Irish and Italian immigration difficulties early on.) Because of the uniqueness of the American Experiment(our country) from a very early standpoint the country was passionately pro-border. Hence, the reason the Founders stood strongly against dual citizenship and any attempts to usurp the US from within.

But by the 1900's and more definitively after WW2, The US had moderated on its immigration views with a great deal of admiration for its European immigrants(who make up ironically largely the modern day US political class.). By the mid-70's, German and Japanese relations had grown positive once again. The US had found its balance.

Then, came along the LBJ-progressives. This is the force behind today's Democratic Party. The party decided that America's pro-European policy towards immigration was -wait for it-, RACIST. And thus they should change the criteria. At the time of debate, they tried to give assurances that changing the policy would not upset the balance in the US.

If you think you heard this argument before, you're right: It's the same argument the progressives give us today. We know the end result of 1963-present: European immigration declined significantly, replaced by the surge of Latin America(and moderately, Lower Asia and Africa. But mostly Latin). And that brings us to today.

The major problem, is that the Progressives like to attribute the 20th century productivity of European immigrants, to the 21st century Lower Asia/Latin group. But there's no evidence barring out that the immigrants of the new policy had contributed positively to US markets. Especially when after NAFTA, the borders became "totally open" in sending jobs outwards in a double whammy.

Basically, a clearer answer could be given if we could branch it into two groups: Pre-policy change, and policy change. And grade accordingly. But even without scientific data, the raw evidence is seen with every closed factory and every American family losing out in a crunching number of jobs that at this point are only fast food, service or technological.

 

Alright then, once again I will make an attempt at discussing immigration on an intellectual basis, although I have tried many times before but right wingers only hear one thing and one thing only "open borders". By refusing to find out more what the term meant when said by Hillary Clinton you have to listen, absorb the information, then fact check it. That's what an intellectual does.

In terms of immigration, open borders would mean 'allowing people to travel between two countries freely or with few restrictions'.

Hillary Clinton has never proposed this; in fact, her proposal doesn’t even include cutting funding for border control, and in 2013 she said she supported a bill that would have invested billions more in border security. Clinton has also explicitly said that she will enforce immigration laws, including deporting criminals and individuals who pose a threat to public safety. During the debate, Chris Wallace pointed to a paid speech given by Clinton and published by Wikileaks, in which Clinton used the term “open borders,” which Trump has previously used as validation for his attacks.
However, the full quote reveals that Clinton is not talking about immigration and as she said during the debate, she's talking about energy trading
. Here is her exact quote.

Here is the quote in its entirety:

“My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, some time in the future with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”

Both Trump and Wallace were intentionally taking the quote out of context, for obvious reasons, to convince people like you that she wanted open immigration borders.

 

Thanks for the well thought reply. Give me a moment or two, nursing a post Thanksgiving hangover.

Cheers