The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    NASA had the Apollo Astronauts wear their Space Suits while the Apollo Spacecraft quickly passed though the Van Allen Belts.

    NASA purposely sent the Apollo spacecraft through the weakest radiation fields in the Van Allen belts and as the Apollo Spacecraft was traveling at extreme velocity and as it was shielded and as the Astronauts had to wear their Space Suits with helmets on while quickly passing through the Radiation Belts the time length of exposure was minimal.

    At the time the United States was in a Space Race with the Soviet Union during the Cold War and as it is very easy to TRIANGULATE the position of the Apollo Spacecraft it was very easy for the Soviet's to KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY that they landed on the Lunar Surface.

    In order to reproduce everything that went on as a Hoax WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE....and even if it could be done the cost would be in the Multiple Trillions of Dollars!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  2. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    What a very sad individual you are. Even your responses to normal debating are spam! "Laughed out of the debating hall", my god man, you must have used that line a thousand times! It took two newspaper men to bring down the Nixon government, they are both still alive and fine.

    I'm dismissing it because it is hogwash.

    Radiation in space, discuss. Ready when you are!
     
  3. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    It's possible is it? So now we have a scenario where literally thousands of design teams are being given data that contradicts the main stream data and not one of them questions it, speaks to a friend about it or asks why? And your idiotic claim is your "defense"! They wouldn't dare tell anybody, just like Woodward and Bernstein!

    Sounds like hearsay, from an idiot who is selling a moon hoax book for simpletons. That response is so typical of the kind of hogwash you believe without question.
     
  4. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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  5. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Did it annoy you that I didn't answer your irrelevant diversionary question? You are the expert at avoiding legitimate questions, so just possibly you may have an inkling at how deliberately irritating you are!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=5&p=4105760#post4105760
     
  6. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Translation-

    If I say Chomsky is wrong, I'll lose all credibility and if I say Chomsky is right, I'll have to eat my words from post #57 so I'd better tap dance around this issue until it blows over.

    That was a legitime question and I'm still waiting for an answer. The viewers are watching this and your credibility is on the line.
     
  7. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Translation? Yet another idiotic "credibility test" where your ignorant assessment is the benchmark. You really are quite delusional if you actually believe your opinion is of any importance.

    You seem to be a little bit stressed that I am not answering your diversionary question. Tough. We have all these questions that you ignored and blustered at:-

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=5&p=4105760#post4105760

    As for my "credibility", your spamming history tells us an idiotic story. A small selection from literally dozens of posts:-

    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7349490&postcount=3484
    "Betamax destroyed his credibility so it really doesn't matter what he says now."

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...ions-were-faked-studio-16.html#post1063438685
    "BetaMax also destroyed his credibility when he tried to obfuscate the anomalies that prove the Chinese spacewalk was faked."

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=195797&page=19&p=1065360094#post1065360094
    " Let's not forget that Betamax destroyed his credibility a long time ago."

    You pitiful poster, you just cut and paste your replies on every forum. Here is my response:-

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=5&p=4106324#post4106324
    "An objectivity test where your ignorant conclusion is the benchmark, shows you failed your own test.

    The bubbles are condensation turned to ice, they go in various directions, they are not curved, they accelerate since they appear to have been expelled from the cargo bay in a direction towards Earth, still subject to Earth gravity, and now moving towards it, they accelerate accordingly. The cables are tightly wound on a drum when they are made. In space, they have nothing to stop them from their natural tendency to acquire that position, called shape memory.

    The flag underwater would not be able to be twirled quickly whilst open, would always be pushed around the stick holding it as viscosity prevents any free motion as shown. Completely brainless video, and you bought it.

    Credibility test - meh!"
     
  8. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Youjust destroyed your credibility again.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979

    Here's where you destroyed it the first time.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=211182&page=11&p=4764783#post4764783



    from post #57
    I asked you and another poster this.

    Now you say this.
    I asked a legitimate question. In your posts you seem to think that the American media always tell the truth. You brought up the issue by your response. Now that you got yourself checkmated, you're tap dancing around. Do you think the viewers can't see that?

    I'm going to have a field day repeating this question to you. You're really going to look silly if you keep tap dancing around it.
     
  9. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    As I have said numerous times. When an idiot conspiracy theorist is the judge of it, using an ignorant claim that has no credence, my credibility is just fine.

    It takes a special kind of ignorant person to think that rotating ice particles are bubbles when even scant observation shows they are not. Coupled with a claim that any fabric could move through water fully opened up without billowing or changing shape is just stupidity. As for shape memory, you have no answer to it. It perfectly explains what we see.

    What you claim the viewers see and what they actually see are always different. They see a sad individual spamming numerous message boards with a very disturbed habit of repeating entire posts. Chomsky makes obvious points about the media. Of course there is bias in newspapers and even TV stations, but to claim these dollar hungry establishments wouldn't go into a frenzy at a huge proven hoax is pure unadulterated hogwash.

    You repeat everything else, so no idea why doing this would give you such a kick!
     
  10. Scott

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    Why isn't there a media frenzy about this then?
    https://www.google.es/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=z-QOVuj6GOqq8wejq7iABg#q=chomsky+vietnam+youtube
     
  11. Betamax101

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    Stop playing dumb. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You seem to think that if someone exposes a big government lie that the media would expose it immediately. I gave an example of a big lie being exposed that the media ignored.

    Most people who get their info from the internet already know about the American media so your saying that the American media would jump at the chance to expose a scandal such as the Apollo hoax isn't going to fool very many of the viewers.

    I have to keep reposting this info about the American media. Here it is again.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597

    Tell us what you think of the info about the American media in that link.
     
  13. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    I don't do that, it is your area of expertise.

    You didn't. You just gave me a list of a google search with no explanation whatsoever.

    You don't get to speak for "many of the viewers". Apollo landed on the Moon 6 times, the evidence crushes your flimsy spam.

    Spam. Have a field day spamming it again - you have so many unanswered points raised you really are a pathetic waste of time.
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    I will say it again.

    This topic is really STUPID!!!

    NASA was and is well aware of the dangers inherent to any Astronaut that is in a Spacecraft and passing through the Van Allen Radiation Belts.

    That's why a combination of plotting a course and velocity of the Apollo Spacecraft that would take the Apollo Astronauts in their shielded spacecraft through the weakest possible areas of the Van Allen Radiation Belts and do so for the SHORTEST POSSIBLE DURATION OF TIME while the Apollo Astronauts wore their Space Suits which are extremely well shielded and shielded enough for an Astronaut to Space Walk as well as walk on the Lunar Surface.

    If a person goes to either the NASA Web Page or goes to the Russian Space Programs Web Page or the Japanese or European Space Programs Web Page they can look up the Radiation Exposure time lengths and under what conditions and the amount of Rad's and for how long any Astronaut or Cosmonaut can survive passing through the Van Allen Belts at different trajectories and at different times of the year and during different years as well.

    There was a higher level of radiation in some parts of the Van Allen Belts during the Apollo 11 Lunar Landing than in other years but as long as they pass through the weaker radiation belt areas and have both shielded spacecraft and wear shielded spacesuits and MOST IMPORTANTLY.....PASS THROUGH THE VAN ALLEN BELTS AT A VERY HIGH VELOCITY TO LIMIT EXPOSURE TIME.....any member can read that such exposure in low enough to allow a person to survive.

    And the last thing....if anyone thinks that the Soviet Union during the Space Race and during the Cold War would allow the U.S. and NASA to get away with a HOAX....then such a person is delusional!!!

    The CCCP tracked all Apollo Spacecraft from the moment they left the launch pad all the way to the Moon and back.

    To do so is EASY as it is called TRIANGULATION and such a thing back then was IMPOSSIBLE TO HOAX!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. Scott

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    Now you seem to be playing for time. Are you really going to tell us that you don't know the left's position on why the US was in Vietnam? We were the bad guys. Vietnam was a colony fighting for its independence and the US wanted to keep it a colony because the US and France were the owners of the rubber plantations and tungsten mines. There's also a theory that there was oil off the coast of Vietnam that American companies wanted.

    The US government also wanted to send the message to the people of it's other de facto colonies that any attempt to get independence would fail.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/history-past-politicians/371897-american-imperialism.html

    There were leftists saying this in lectures in communities and college campuses but the press never reported any of it. Your position that the media would have reported the Apollo hoax is pretty lame.


    This doesn't make the anomalies in the footage go away. The anomalies prove the hoax.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/347662-apollo-moon-missions-were-faked-studio.html

    I only said that space radiation was probably the reason why they had to fake it. We only have second-hand info on space radiation. In order to know for sure, we'd have to send up our own probes and measure it ourselves.
     
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    Anomalies do not prove a hoax and no hoax has been proven.

    Every film clip you post has been debunked
     
  17. Betamax101

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    You seem to be rambling with hogwash. That seems to be your main goal.

    No anomalies, only ignorance from the ignorant.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/
     
  18. Betamax101

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    Further to this, I'm seriously wondering whether this person is aware of the non USA media! Just because right wing newspapers chose not to air left wing opinion, doesn't mean other countries don't freely report it if they want to. Your insane view that the entire world's media would be quiet if Apollo was proven a hoax is so painfully simplistic and perfectly in keeping with your consistent dishonesty. You not only lack any critical thinking skills, any idea of any science relating to space missions in general, but worst of all I don't think you even have the remotest idea of how vast the level of recorded data, evidence and information recorded by NASA and available for all to see. It makes your tiny insignificant puddle of risible spam look just that.

    Just as an example, go and read the dialogue from Apollo 8, page after page of it, all recorded, annotated and all 100% consistent with events. Not to mention the level of completely natural speech involved. That was a short non lunar landing mission. There are literally days and days of recordings that show completely normal interactions. Just for one mission. Every photograph corresponds to the date and time specified, including trajectory, lunar and terrestrial phases and views of the Moon.

    And what do you have? A stupid flag that moves in a way that you ignorantly attribute to air when science says that is impossible. Yet here we are going over your same spam over and over. You need to move on and find a 'hobby' that involves reality. Being the number one internet pest/troll is not a hobby or anything to crow about.
     
  19. Scott

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    There is no hoax proof. Your hopeless spammed responses are so sad and predictable. I can only guess at how affected you are sat beside your keyboard thinking you are some kind of warrior for the truth! You routinely avoid the majority of posts made, you run away from nearly every difficult question and just repeat your useless ignorant opinion. The Apollo record is vast, I alluded to it with just the dialog from Apollo 8 but like everything major you just ignore it. Answer this point and answer it in your next post:-

    Show your scientific evidence for air being pushed by a body in motion.

    Maybe you are full of crap. You have got nothing and every sensible person who reads these threads knows it.

    What next in your spammed repertoire, the debating hall? The black knight? My credibility? It's all a "moot point". Bluster followed by how I can't make the "hoax proof go away"?
     
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    I remember seeing it live on TV. I think it was real.
     
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    I have watched several documentaries about people claiming the Lunar Landing were a hoax and then Documentaries that debunk EVERY SINGLE HOAX CLAIM!!!

    One of the things people who think the Lunar Landings were a Hoax have pointed out is MULTIPLE SHADOWS of the Astronauts while walking on the Moon but the reason there was multiple shadows is there were MULTIPLE SOURCES OF LIGHT!!!

    What Hoax Followers do not realize is that there was Sunshine from the sun....and EARTHSHINE FROM THE EARTH!!!

    As the Moon has no atmosphere the amount of sunlight that reflects off the Earth is enormous especially if one considers how bright our moon is at night and how it can create shadows on Earth at night and imagine how bright the Earth is in the Lunar sky!!

    An exact replica of the FLAG that was placed on the Moon was also placed in a Vacuum Chamber on Earth and as the Earth has even more Gravity than the Moon the effects that everyone was claiming could not happen happened even to a greater degree on Earth so that was debunked.

    You can go online and get an explanation that is scientific and has been proven by experimentation in a vacuum and takes into account movement time differential due to higher gravity on Earth for every single thing the Hoax supporters scream about.

    But there is one thing the Hoax Supporters cannot account for.....TRIANGULATION OF RADIO SIGNALS FROM THE APOLLO SPACECRAFT.....as well as the LASER LIGHT REFLECTORS that the Apollo Astronauts placed on the Moon which every single Nations version of NASA uses to measure the distance and rate of movement of the Moon as WE AND A 100 OTHER AGENCIES OF A MULTITUDE OF NATIONS INCLUDING RUSSIA ACTUALLY USE THE LASER REFLECTORS PLACED ON THE LUNAR SURFACE TO BOUNCE THEIR OWN LASERS OFF THEM TO MEASURE THE DISTANCE CHANGES OF THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    From this we have learned that some day in the distant future the Earth will LOSE the Moon as the Moon Orbit around the Earth is getting a little farther away every year and in the future the EARTH WILL LOSE IT'S MOON!!!

    MY GOD THIS TOPIC IS STUPID!!!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    That's exactly what the 'believers' do too? Maybe there's a 'gullibility gene', and someone has either got it or they haven't? Bit like religion??
     
  24. Scott

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    Scott....by providing that LINK you have definitively PROVEN that the Radiation Astronauts encountered going to the Moon WOULD NOT KILL THEM!!!!

    If members look at the chart they will see that an Astronaut would only receive a Radiation dose of a bit more than 300 after spending 500 DAYS ON MARS!!!

    The radiation dose to KILL a person after a month is 5000!!!

    A radiation dose of 1000 will make a person SICK...but will NOT KILL THEM!!!

    The Apollo Astronauts received a much lower dose of Radiation than the 300 dose an Astronaut would get traveling to and spending 500 days on Mars!!!

    AboveAlpha
     

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