The Baffling Theft of a "Landslide!" Solved?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    So who's going to bring actual evidence of fraud? All I have heard about for the last year is the same rehashed stories that have been debunked. Like what counties jumped from 60% to 90% voter turnout?

    It;s already been debunked that republicans "weren't allowed" to watch the tallying. Trump lawyers admitted as much in court.
     
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    Because you just made that up. (More specifically, your side faked the story, and you're mindlessly parroting the fiction.)

    You just made that up too.

    Because that has absolutely nothing to do with vote fraud. Your logic there makes zero sense. According to your logic, Trump couldn't have won in 2016, because he had such abysmal approval ratings.

    Because you made up the story of "average voting cycles are 60%. 90% has always been common.

    Wait, I thought your conspiracy theory was that the MSM was in on it? Can you please make up your mind? And no, the MSM did not report that.

    You've destroyed your credibility faking all those crazy stories, so now everyone correctly assumes that your side fakes everything. And so they ignore you.
     
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    I think you are farther out than that… like in a Bernie Sanders
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    I am curious… who is going to bring evidence of fraud … in our normal society…. Who brings evidence of a crime to the table…
     
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    In a normal society, the people who claim another party committed a crime bring the evidence.
     
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    Oh, you mean like the one party (Democrat) who claimed that president (Trump) committed a crime by colluding with the ruskies? Looks like they couldn't come up with the evidence, eh?
     
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    Democrats presented evidence. Whether or not you think that becomes proof of a crime is up to you.

    Now back on topic, where is evidence of the election being stolen. I'm not asking for so called evidence like Republicans not being allowed to watch or 90% voter voter turnout in counties that don't normally vote. These claims have been thoroughly disproven. Democrats at least provided examples of things that actually happened unlike Republicans who keep regurgitating the same nonsense about events that never occurred. I want actual cases of so called widespread Democrat fraud.
     
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    Oh really.... that is NOT the way it is normal society when it come to crime... if you see a drug dealer working your neighborhood .... are you saying YOU go take pictures of the drug dealer... maybe a few selfies with him... ask him for a list of his clients..... buy a little blow from him and then run down to the local court and YOU present that to the judge? Is that how you claim the evidence is brought before a court? Just curious...
     
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    In this day of social media, plenty of crimes are captures on cell phone cameras and presented to the police as evidence. But here's the kicker. Republicans said they had evidence of a crime, so where is it? You don't have to take pictures to report a crime, but if you say you have evidence of a crime, doesn't it make sense to present it?

    Did republicans claim they had mountains of evidence of a crime? Yes or no.
     
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    If you come from the perspective of the weird worship of one dude, any balanced, fact-based aproach to reality is apt to get you in a tizzy.
     
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    I agree, but I'm not a liberal, so I don't worship Biden in his cognitively declining state.... To let this babbling dementia ridden old man "think" he is running this country while we all stand back and say "this dude ain't right".... now that is your "fact-based approach"

    Be honest with yourself.... answer the question.... Do you think Joe Biden is capable of being the president?
     
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    police... evidence...??????
    where are the police collecting evidence in the election fraud? There is a complete audit, and many people that signed affidavits at the risk of perjury.... so where have your police taken the "report of a crime"

    """Republicans said they had evidence of a crime, so where is it?"""
    By your own statement ... why do the Republicans have to cough up the evidence? It is not their job.... There are many claims but no investigations to collect evidence... Where are your police or FBI's, CIA's, XRT's, QAZ's and any other 3 letter agency investigation reports on the claims so far... They can track down 600 protesters on Jan 6 but they can't seem to take the time (22 months hold election data and documents) to check out these claims...
     
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    """In this day of social media, plenty of crimes are captures on cell phone cameras and presented to the police as evidence"""
    So you telling me you are going to run down to the local corner and take some selfies with your local drug dealer and buy some drugs that you can hand over to the cops ... I don't think so...
     
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    Did anyone contact the police to report a crime? Where are the police reports? It seems many "witnesses" went to social media and Trump lawyers instead. Many of the witnesses were questioned in court and determined to be unreliable. Some affidavits included things like Biden had to be cheating because he was winning the military vote. So you see, an affidavit doesn't mean squat when you didn't actually witness it.

    They have to cough up the evidence because they said they had the evidence. Thus, it was their responsibility to present said evidence. If you go to the police claiming you have evidence of a drug dealer selling crack cocaine to little Johnny, and they tell you after months of investigation they cannot pin anything on him, wouldn't you show them the evidence so they can arrest the drug dealer?
     
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    Worship or obsession, is one any better or healthier then the other Natty ;)
     
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    As long as their are weird worshippers of one dude befouling democracy, they will whine about diligence in exposing them, of course.
     
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    You fail to answer the question, is there a personal reason for avoiding it? Maybe the word confuses you?

    obsession
     
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    We are far past normal in proving anything with any tangible evidence.. We the little people of politics live and die knowing only what is told to us by corrupt politicians and media.

    If you haven't come to grips with that reality then politics or reality might be thing to avoid :(
     
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    Biden, like most politicians, does not attract weird worshippers like the Cry Baby Loser, regardless of their ideological proclivities.

    In 2020, the American electorate assigned the President 306 electoral votes via 51.3% of the popular vote, 81,286,358. (That does not include his additional few hundred votes uncovered in Trump-backed audits in Arizona and Wisconsin.) If the electorate is disappointed in him in 2024, they will reject him via the same democratic process they dumped the Former Guy in 2020. Lately, his approval numbers have clearly fallen.


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    So his polls favor is falling, so? Nine months in and your still concerned with Trump! Remember our little word lesson Natty, taking the first step is the hardest :(
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump worshippers get in a tizzy when their Emperor/God's perversion of democracy via his lies is acknowledged, but patriots do not ignore the persistent threat. If the Loser can summon the testicular fortitude to follow the acceptance of all defeated presidential candidates before him, the threat to the nation from the narcissist and his cult will be significantly diminished.

    In the meantime, if you need to obsess over my noting documented facts, I don't see why you shouldn't.
     
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    The cultists should never be allowed to pervert the will of the American people. Pay attention people, it's happening in your statehouses.
     
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    Why do we leave out "police" or "investigations" when we talk about election fraud...

    An affidavit is the "admissible evidence" you are looking for.... just like the ""crimes are captures on cell phone cameras and presented to the police as evidence""... Except the point is.... there is no police with Trump's affidavits, but there is with your cell phone... Why is that.... Why did you not run to the court house and go in front of a judge and show him your picture instead of taking it to the police...

    Where is this evidence located? Does Trump have the voter data base in his possession.... nope... Does Trump have the security videos.... Nope... Does Trump, Sidney Powell have a Dominion machine to have forensically investigated .... nope...Does Trump have the hard drives... nope

    that is where the audits come in...

    I think an audit for all states is called for being there was more than enough "questionable claims of fraud" that should be investigated by the proper authorities, like in in Maricopa County with ALL the voter data and documentation and equipment SUBPOENED.... and they definitely brought many claims of voter fraud... now where is the proper investigation by the proper authority or police into those claims to collect "evidence" you are looking for..

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    Easy. The people behind the collusion have the protection of the propaganda machine that we used to call journalists, and the capacity for total denial of the obvious with a straight face. They simply identify unfavorable facts as lies, and ignore them. Not proof. Didn't happen. Nope. You can't prove anything to people who aren't actually interested in truth.

    We now have a nation where taking down a statue of Thomas Jefferson, perhaps our most important historical patriot, is acceptable- and putting up statues of George Floyd, a convicted career hoodlum and drug addict is even more acceptable. We have a government starting to arrest it's critics under phony charges yo silence them. A president breaking federal law every day, and nobody on the left notices or takes action. Given what these people are doing, no rational, logical person thinks they do anything without cheating in someway. I think even if they could, they wouldn't, wouldn't be against their principles. If you don't win by cheating, you haven't really done it right- and failed the test. That would be evidence of- Morals, and that poses a danger to the people behind all this.

    These people could walk downwind of the worlds biggest feedlot of the hottest day of summer- and say they don't smell a thing- and they may not. It's an odor they are used to because they live in it.
     

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