The Baffling Theft of a "Landslide!" Solved?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The Trump cult will fester, unencumbered by the Cry Baby Loser they worship.
     
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    This cannot be allowed to happen.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    All 81,268,924 of the conspiracists, recognized by, among others, Republican governors, Republican secretaries of state, Republican attorneys general, and Republican judges across America, propped up by recount after recount, audit after audit, all accurately reported by every major news outlet - television networks, newspapers, etc., etc., etc.

    That's a conspiracy that demands weird-worshipping paranoia that no simple bamboo ballots, Italian satellites, or hostile alien shape-shifters assuming the guise of voting machines can account for.

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    "Hang Mike Pence!"
     
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    As ecologically responsible as I try to be out of a sense of patriotism, the toxic Cry Baby Loser must be regarded as eminently desposable, and must not be recycled under any circumstances.
     
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    What we have is so much BS and lies in the air that nobody has a very good handle on what's real- and the worst of the lot are those who buy the CNN and MSM crap without question.
    They have no idea what "accurately reporting" means at all; they conveniently leave out the down-side of everything- effectively, lying by omission if not outright fabrication. IF the democrats were clean- they would have welcomed any and all proper audits and investigations, because that would have removed doubt. These are the same people who bought the dossier as gospel after learning that Hillary financed it. The same that accepted the woman's testimony at the Kavanaugh confirmation when she couldn't remember who, when, where or how things happened, but was sure it had to be Kavanaugh.

    To be credible, you have to acknowledge the facts you don't benefit from as well as those you do. That's a value of honor- and I haven't seen the MSM or a democratic spokesman do that in years.
    The only rational conclusion one can assume from this is that if their lips are moving , they are lying- because it is what they do.

    No personal insult intended here- I'm telling you how others see this behavior, and how it shapes their opinions of the left. Now once that kind of crap gets started, it winds up dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator, but it can't go unchallenged. However- Nobody really wins a pissing match.
     
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    "Trump's good name" :roflol:
     
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    Affidavits are only as reliable as the person who signs it. Those people were questioned in court and determined to be unreliable because many of them described events based on hearsay. So, did any of these people file police reports? The police have to be notified of a crime to investigate the crime right?

    Trump and his cronies have claimed they there is evidence of fraud, not that there are some questionable practices that need to be investigated.

    Those quotes seem like they have proof. When they first made those statements, supporters of the Steal said they were just saving the evidence for the courts. Now the tune has changed to they weren't given access to find evidence which is completely false.

    Audits were done to check out the claims no matter how ridiculous.


    Hand audit of all Presidential Election votes in Antrim County confirms previously certified results, voting machines were accurate

    What needs to be investigated from the Arizona audit? People with the same name and birth year in different counties is not voter fraud. It is not illegal to have the same name and birth year as someone else. I have repeated this 1000x times. Duplicating ballots is not illegal. Allowing college kids to vote is not illegal. People are allowed to move during an election year. This is not illegal. So what needs to be investigated?
     
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    """"People with the same name and birth year in different counties is not voter fraud.""" highly unlikely..
    And.... it was the same first, middle, and last names, which you may want to include... along with birth date.

    """I have repeated this 1000x times""""".... Which makes you wrong 1000 times... you never learn

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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    You are only confused if you swallow the Cry Baby Loser's self-serving, feeble lies.

    He is only crapping on American democracy because the American electorate dumped him in a free and fair election, at its first opportunity, after assigning him dismal numbers for four years, and he is too weak to handle the truth.

    After a year of his constant whining, not a single suspect in a fantasy about a stolen "Landslide!"

    Get real.
     
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    Fact Check-Arizona election audit did not find votes from tens of thousands of people who don’t exist
    By Reuters Fact Check

    In the wake of an election audit in Arizona, false and misleading claims that tens of thousands of voters cannot be accounted for have been spread across the internet. The audit noted that voters could not be found on Personator, a commercial database run by the firm Melissa, but did not imply that they did not exist.

    Melissa told Reuters that many people are not included on their database and that they receive opt-out requests, often from individuals associated with law enforcement.

    Examples of the misleading claim can be found on Twitter (here), as well as on numerous websites (here, here, here, here), which say that 86,391 voters in Maricopa County, Arizona, either have no identity match, or do not appear to exist.


    However, Cyber Ninja, which ran the audit, did not come to that conclusion. Its report said: “All voters within the Final Voted File, or VM55, was cross-checked against a commercially available data source provided by Melissa' called Personator and 86,391 individuals were found with no record in the database for either their name, or anyone with the same last name at the address in the VM55 file.” (Section 5.7.9, p. 56 here). However, it immediately advised:


    “It is expected that most if not all of these individuals are in fact real people
    with a limited public record and commercial presence”,

    and recommended that the list be further validated.

    Furthermore, the company that runs the Personator database, Melissa, told Reuters that


    “being absent from the Personator data tool is not an indicator that an individual does
    not exist” and that they estimate that their tool covers “approximately 80% of U.S. adults.”

    Figures provided by the Maricopa County Elections Department to Reuters showed that 2,090,083 voters were included on the Final Voted File, meaning that more than 95% of voters in the presidential election were accounted for in the Melissa database, higher than the company’s own 80% estimate for their cover of the United States.

    However, Maricopa County Elections Department said that they had a robust method of checking their voter rolls and that they were unable to attest to the accuracy of the Melissa database.

    “Melissa.com is not a trusted resource for confirming voters residential address for voting purposes. We do not know how the data file is maintained, timing of data or resources through which they acquire their data,” the Maricopa County Elections Department told Reuters via email. “No voter should be denied their right to vote because they are not in a commercial database.”

    VERDICT

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    An audit of the Maricopa County presidential election found that 86,391 voters included on the Final Voted File could not be verified to exist on Personator, a data tool run by the firm Melissa. However,
    neither the auditors,
    the owners of the database,
    nor Maricopa County
    say that this indicates
    those voters do not exist
    or cannot otherwise be identified.

    This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our work to fact-check social media posts here.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-election-maricopa-idUSL1N2R10ZD

    Weird worshippers of one dude falsify such data to serve their fraudulent agenda.

     
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    Reuters fact checks are as fake news as you will ever find

    Nice deflection though....

    """"However, neither the auditors, the owners of the database, nor Maricopa County say that this indicates those voters do not exist or cannot otherwise be identified.""""""
    However, neither the auditors, the owners of the database, nor Maricopa County say that this indicates those voters do exist or can otherwise be identified.
     
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    Personator being a commercial database is not 100% accurate. People can use names or information that is not identical to their voter registration information.

    The number of voters with same first and last name and birth year was less than 1 percent. I guess less than 1 percent is common to cyberninjas, but they offer no evidence supporting this claim.

    You are allowed to request a temporary address change.
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    Reuters contacted the company that owns Melissa, and they confirmed it is not 100% accurate, but you can go ahead and tell us how you know more about their system than they do.
     
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    Any documented reality that doesn't serve the Cry Baby Loser is "fake!"

    Any crap that does is divine revelation.

    That is an unassailable tenet of weird worshippers.
     
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    Being you know more about it than they do... it looks like they left it up to a highly intelligent person like yourself to figger it out... Please write us out a chart or graph or show us some figures where CyberNinjas is wrong about the "less than one percent" and get back with us on it... I would say CJ has done enough paperwork for now.... it is time for you to do some to back up your pathetic weak assumption...
     
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    Coming from someone who uses "fake" quiet often

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-republicans-in-2022.593090/#post-1072994757

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...laims-discredit.592436/page-9#post-1072983551

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...laims-discredit.592436/page-8#post-1072979633

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-a-smoking-gun.592526/page-8#post-1072979485
     
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    Prove it with credible sources.... but if it is less the 1 percent inaccurate... are you good with that?
     
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    Straight from the audit report. Notice how they say it's not common, then say it might be common?
     

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    Database only covers 80% of adults. Are you okay with that?
     
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    Real- is pointing out tht what you are doing here is exactly what I explained the left does, see nothing but itself and refuse to consider any view they don't like. Pitiful.
     
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    Do you recall when Orange Jesus said something along the lines that all women want him even if it's just subconsciously?

    Same principle. In Orange Jesus-Land, EVERYBODY loves him and wants to burn Constitution and appoint him Dear Leader for Life.
     
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    “Brown estimated 80%”….. are you OK with that?
    And he told Polifact…. The left wing fake news site that I brought fact checkers of the fact checker up a few posts back to show how fake Politfact ain’t so “factual”
     
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    When the weird worship of one dude allows a true believer to cite a single attorney, anywhere in the nation, who files an actual charge concerning the theft of a "Landslide!," or some legislator, anywhere in the nation, brings a motion to invalidate the democratic process, please provide a link to the litigation and the actual evidence that such an act would require.

    As long as any deluded toady wallows in fantasy and merely flails the mephitic gossamer effusions that issue from a cult leader's big fat butt, he will remain alienated from the nation and the nonsense he spouts will have no impact upon reality.

    Of course, a consuming paranoia can persist in metastasizing, and envelop all Republican attorneys and Republican legislators throughout the land.

    One advantage to issuing such irrational, inclusive indictments is that pointing anywhere and everywhere identifies a target.

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    Parroting William Barr and Chris Wray is not convincing.

    Explaining how Biden won 10 states that voted for GOP state house and GOP state senate, that requires.....
     
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