THE BELLS TOLL FOR HILLARY The FBI is closing in.

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  1. fizbo

    fizbo Well-Known Member

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    LOL… My memory is just fine. Cheney is amateur hour material compared to the Clintons.
     
  2. Uber Lib

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    just another big fat load of kon bs and you know it
     
  3. fizbo

    fizbo Well-Known Member

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    It's all factual. Look it up.

    BTW, you throw out the "kon card" every time you're at a loss for substantive response. The pattern has become unmistakable.
     
  4. Uber Lib

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    as are even more damning cases against their haters
     
  5. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know that when leftist find they can no longer defend their positions they resort to

    BUSH..BUSH..BUSH

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    So now you are denying Hillary was one of the strongest most unequivocal supporters of using military force to remove Saddam?
     
  6. CRUE CAB

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    Seems to fail to realize how many wars we are still in and more we have entered under the top Democrat Obama.
     
  7. Herkdriver

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    Unfortunately the Clintons are coated with teflon, nothing ever sticks. For the sake of the argument, let's say Mrs. Clinton is indicted and Sen. Sanders wins the Democratic nomination.

    The problem is, the Republicans have so much in-fighting going on, and are running an extreme candidate like Donald Trump.

    A Sanders v. Trump election would mean Sanders wins.

    Sorry to the Trump supporters, but he's unelectable.

    He has zero appeal outside of middle-aged caucasian males, a demographic that can't carry elections any more.

    If Mrs. Clinton goes down in flames, say hello to President Sanders, an admitted socialist that would make our current President look like Ronald Reagan.

    Sanders would be very bad for the nation.

    Where does that leave us?

    The Republicans have shot themselves in the foot by continually supporting an unelectable nominee in one Donald Trump. He may carry the Republican nomination but he can't carry a national election....far too derisive.
     
  8. Uber Lib

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    responsibility, guilt, and accountability are still avoided by their grifters
     
  9. jackdog

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    guess if we will find out if the often rumored rift between the Clinton's and the Obama's is for real or not and if Obama cares enough about his legacy to let the DOJ do it's job or if he is more scared of his millionaire backers
     
  10. fizbo

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    We agree. The Democrats have been in denial about their support for the Iraq war. Here is Hillary's swan song of support:

    [video=youtube;DkS9y5t0tR0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0[/video]

    I love her concluding statement; "I cast it (the vote to authorize war) with conviction".
     
  11. 1up2down

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    Yes i agree. trump is unelectable and Sanders will win in a general. I just wish the Dems would dump Hillary as she is just getting in the way. Once people really understand how great socialism is Sanders will win. Maybe all 50 states.
     
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    A Sanders Presidency would be disastrous, yet it's no longer inconceivable...yet the Trump fervor has not subsidized either.

    In a head to head contest pitting the extremes, Sen. Sanders would probably win. Millennials outnumber Boomers.

    White males, middle aged and older can't carry elections any more. A viable candidate must carry the majority of women voters and hispanics...Trump fails here.
     
  13. 1up2down

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    I think sanders can beat any of the republican candidates. The biggest hurdle Sanders has is getting past the DNC and Hillary or whoever they might throw in her place. Sanders has a lot of appeal across the board and we are seeing that. He can actually pull a lot of moderates once he gets the real message and attributes of socialism out. I think he can pull a huge amount of the baby boomers who many live off socialistic programs. Middle aged working class can be a tough sell but they are not the majority anymore anyways. And most of them are getting closer to the edge every day. So why he wont,pull them all he can get enough.

    First hurdle is the DNC and Hillary though and thats a big one.
     
  14. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How's he going to pay for it all then?
     
  15. Uber Lib

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    by pissing kons off in major ways equaling glorious American days
     
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    "He" is not going to pay for anything. Obviously taxes will have to massively go up for those who work. I think retirement and savings accounts of those with massive wealth can probably be tapped into. Everybody is just going to have to do their part. Ending wars and legalizing drugs could probably get factored in as well. maybe throw down some more sin taxes as well.

    Sounds rough but i guess the thinking is we are going to have to have to make some sacrifices to bring this country back around. The next administration is just not going to make things as prosperous and comfortable as the last 8 years of Obama has been. Things will be a little harder the next few years when Bernie gets in but once the foundation is laid out and we commit to full blown socialism it will be another story. People will be so Happy.
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    How is that going to pay for it all?
     
  18. Uber Lib

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    he'll show you, and you know kon heads will be bursting like intense festering boils
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    You can't possibly tax those at the top enough to pay for it all. And you are now saying taxing wealth, the government gets to take a chunk or your wealth every year just because you own it? Pretty soon they've taxed it away from you so what do you live on then?

    Let's look at it this way, Fred and I work at the same place and made the same amount of money. I was frugal and saved from day one, did not take regular lavish vacations, did not get into high debt. I bought things I could afford like my house and it's furnishings, medium priced used cars, etc etc.

    Fred spent his money as fast as he got paid, when he didn't have enough to by the 4 wheeler he wanted he bought it on credit till he was paying thousands in interest every year, took lavish vacations, bought new fancy cars regularly losing thousands in depreciation but heck just sign on the dotted lines, bought and sold houses so fast he never gained any equity.

    Now comes retirement. I have saved and built up through dollar cost averaging and the magic of compounding a couple of million on which to retire. My house is paid for, my cars are paid for. I get my Social Security and that combined with my savings I will be able to maintain my current net income or close to it. Time to enjoy my life after work.

    But NO. You see Fred doesn't have a dime, just lots of debt. All he has is his his social security and we know he can't live off that right? So you want to start taxing wealth, my wealth, what I have scrimped and saved and given up those lavish things putting my savings and investing before luxury. You think I have some social obligation to take care of Fred now, out of what I did not spend but what I saved so my retirement would be the time I've always worked hard for. That wouldn't be fair would it?

    You don't do that by transferring the wealth and income of one person to another person. And care to elaborate on your

    Other than for those evil rich wealthy guys what has been prosperous and comfortable in the last 8 years?

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    So you claim he can do it but don't know how...how comforting.
     
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    I'd love to see her home in Chappaqua surrounded by cops and have Hillary yell, "You'll never take me alive!"
     
  21. Uber Lib

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    he can do it so much better that I'm sure if you really wanted to know you'd already know, I've heard plenty and it's all positive, that's a winner. you want to be a winner at some point, don't you?
     
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    [video=youtube;Kfpgl6NqF0I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfpgl6NqF0I[/video]

    Council on Foreign Relations: Syrian Rebels Need Al-Qaeda Now

    Aaron Nelson (The Anti-Media)
    September 3, 2014

    An article published in 2012 by Ed Husain, a senior fellow for Middle Eastern studies at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), promoted Al Qaeda as the solution needed to improve morale and bring discipline to the Syrian rebels.

    “The Syrian rebels would be immeasurably weaker today without al-Qaeda in their ranks. By and large, Free Syrian Army (FSA) battalions are tired, divided, chaotic, and ineffective. Feeling abandoned by the West, rebel forces are increasingly demoralized as they square off with the Assad regime’s superior weaponry and professional army. Al-Qaeda fighters, however, may help improve morale. The influx of jihadis brings discipline, religious fervor, battle experience from Iraq, funding from Sunni sympathizers in the Gulf, and most importantly, deadly results. In short, the FSA needs al-Qaeda now.” – Ed Husain, Council on Foreign Relations

    Comprehending the significance of this “recommendation” by the CFR may not be possible without first understanding two things:

    1) The history of the Council on Foreign Relations.

    2) The origin of ISIS."


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    John McCain taking a selfie with Syrian rebels who were later found to be ISIS fighters. Credit: guardianlv.com

    http://theantimedia.org/council-on-foreign-relations-syrian-rebels-need-al-qaeda-now/
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    So he can do it better but you don't know how, just on faith...........this is sounding more like a religion....:oldman:

    Do you buy snake-oil too?
     
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    She wont face justice. It is as simple as that. I just hope she doesnt become Potus. It really would be incredible.
     
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    Bernie has plenty of money . So what are you going to do if you are wrong about Hillary being prosecuted ?????
     

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