THE BELLS TOLL FOR HILLARY The FBI is closing in.

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are we all going to do?

    Tell me if the FBI sends a criminal referral and the Obama DOJ refuses to pursue will be your position?
     
  2. Uber Lib

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    I'll trust him on what he's said, yes, wouldn't you?
     
  3. jackdog

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    it's Friday and bad news always goes to press on weekends. This is also the next to last weekend before the Iowa caucus. If I were the Dems I would want some sort of resolution on whether action will be taken on this before the primary season starts. Drawing it out no matter what the decision will be by the AG is not getting Hillary any more votes. The uncertainty is probably losing her some
     
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    Bernie has said a number of things. He'd tear apart a profitable health care industry that employes about 15 million people. Many of those people would end up as government employees serving a single payer heath care system that would be a bureaucratic nightmare of horrible sub par service. He'd add 10-20 trillion dollars of debt to pay for his free lunch projects. Taxes would skyrocket across the board, even for the middle class who can least afford it.

    In reality, Congress would never go along with Bernie's Santa Claus approach to government, so we'd have gridlock that makes Obama's time look like a giant love feast. I don't even want to contemplate the feckless foreign polices we'd have to endure.

    So no, I wouldn't trust him. Anyone with an ounce of sanity wouldn't either.
     
  5. Uber Lib

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    fair enuf, I absolutely disagree but do need him to explain much more for others to know, and he will. would you actually trust any of the others?
     
  6. fizbo

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    Trust requires meeting two criteria:

    1) Honesty, Integrity, and believability
    2) A heathy respect for Capitalism and Free Enterprise

    Clinton miserably fails #1, and her complete commitment to #2 is questionable. Sanders miserably fails #2, although I give him credit for #1. Regardless, neither Sanders or Clinton satisfy both absolute requirements. Unfortunately, that makes the Democrats non-starters.

    There are several Republicans who satisfy both, but my choice would be John Kasich. He has a complete package of successful experience none of the other candidate (from either party) can touch. He's not over the top on social issues, and from a dollars and cents persecutive, he understand the concept of fiscal responsibility, and what it takes for government to encourage business expansion. He'll be able to cross the divide between Republicans and Democrats (as much as that's possible), and he has the strength to lead effective foreign policy. He's a long shot at this point, but we'll see.
     
  7. Uber Lib

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    a konboi pointing fingers at anybody else? how precious... you just failed your own criteria
    Kasich? he's the best of the bunch but w no chance, kons wail about the looks of every Dem and we know so well how kons loath hypocrisy, so they don't want a funky looking nominee... fail
     
  8. jackdog

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    I don't think there is any doubt Hillary has indeed committed criminal actions, now it is just a matter of time to see if Obama will allow the judicial system to act. If he does not their will be FBI leaks out the wazoo and she will be tried in the court of public opinion and it could very well cause her to lose the election. The DNC recognizes this and is why they are doing research right now to find a VP who can prop her wrinkly old butt up assuming Sanders does not take her out in the primaries
     
  9. fizbo

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    I failed at nothing. I provided analysis that you had requested. How about this: Ask for a meeting with you High School Civics teacher after class. Share that you have a terminal case of "KONitus", and ask for possible remedies. Who knows, it might help. :roll:
     
  10. jackdog

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    If she is unfamiliar with the term Konitus explain to her that is the liberal term for butthurt. The cures can be found at the local public library and go by the generic name of Federalist Papers and the US constituition. But anything authored by Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, John Jay, or Alexander Hamilton can provide relief
     
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    Its like 1988 all over again after Reagan became finished with his Presidency. The economy was a shambles. The people had discovered - this B-movie actor, who had beaten a genuine President with real talents, by using illegal means, by making a secret deal to delay the release of the Iranian hostages - was a crook. He had killed 40,000 innocent Nicaraguans, in a secret war the Congress had told him he could not do legally. He had been caught. The media protected him. Like in the 1984 debate he shook and trembled, as if he had had Alzheimers disease the entire Presidency and was senile. Reagan was daft, he was incompetent. His cabinet of crooks had all been caught. The most prosecuted in U.S. history, but somehow the three network news channels, and the one cable one insisted that he and his former CIA director Vice President George Bush Sr., were "out of the loop." It was a massive lie. There were endless tales in the print press how the so called "communist" citizens in regimes Reagans government and CIA backed, either in El Salvador, Guatemala or Nicargua were systematically tortured by the most horrible means and then buried in mass graves after they were killed. But neither he nor the Mockingbird TV media could give a fig. His Republican Party was still leading in the re-election pollls, shaped by the corrupt TV media. HIs CIA Director William Casey feigned illness in the hospital to avoid testifying in front of Congress about his endless crimes of butchery. One book author even said that William Casey wasn't ever in the hospital, either - but that secret service agents were actually guarding a carefully constructed look alike mannequin of CIA Director William Casey so that he could never be caught or held accountable,, such was his fear of prosecution. There was a cartoon in the Detroit Free Press of secret government agents digging thru the trash cans looking for evidence of ordinary Americans opposed to Reagans Central American policy. It was totalitarianism. America had gone full blown dictatorship.

    2016 is just like that. Except that its President is a Democrat Obama, their Party candidate is leading in the polls, shaped by the TV coverage, and the wars, unspeakable crimes of torture and mass graves are in Syria, Iraq and Libya assisted again by the CIA. And no one in the TV or printed press media gives a fig. Everything is the same.
     
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    and todays bombshell

    http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/

    FBI agents are zeroing in on three of Clinton’s top department aides. Most of the Clinton emails deemed classified by intelligence agency reviewers were sent to her by her chief of staff Cheryl Mills or deputy chiefs Huma Abedin and Jake Sullivan.

    ‘It takes a very conscious effort to move a classified email or cable from the classified systems over to the unsecured open system and then send it to Hillary Clinton’s personal email account.’
    - Raymond Fournier, veteran Diplomatic Security Service special agent
    In one email, Clinton pressured Sullivan to declassify cabled remarks by a foreign leader.

    “Just email it,” Clinton snapped, to which Sullivan replied: “Trust me, I share your exasperation. But until ops converts it to the unclassified email system, there is no physical way for me to email it.”

    In another recently released email, Clinton instructed Sullivan to convert a classified document into an unclassified email attachment by scanning it into an unsecured computer and sending it to her without any classified markings. “Turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she ordered.
     
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    Ol Hillbag could shoot a Veteran in the face in the middle of the Macy's parade and the left wing would say "But what real evidence do you have she did it? Sounds like a witch hunt".
     
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    Saw this article over on the Hill. I think it sums up the situation nicely. Here are the first ten points. Link to the article is here

    1. There is the stench of political death around Hillary, Bill, Chelsea and the entire House of Clinton.

    2. You could feel it when Republican front-runner Donald Trump hit back — hard — over the "penchant for sexism" charge by basically calling Hillary Clinton an enabler in the former president's sexual shenanigans.

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    3. When have we ever seen the Clintons back off? But they did.
    4. Then came further reports about an expanded FBI probe of her handling of secure information; the nexus of State Department favors for donors to the Clinton Foundation; and the story that Hillary Clinton or her staff might have lied to FBI agents in this probe.

    5. All of this has raised the speculation, yet again: Will President Obama stop the Department of Justice (DOJ) from indicting her if the eight-person DOJ team working with over 100 FBI agents recommends criminal charges?

    6. The president will be in an odd situation: He ran against the Clintons. He is known to loathe Bill Clinton. He apparently does not want the Clintons back in charge of the Democratic Party (thus removing the thousands of Obama acolytes with cushy patronage jobs).

    7. So: If the DOJ recommends an indictment and he K.O.'s it, he will have his own legacy smeared with a permanent taint of having covered up for the Clintons.

    8. If he allows an indictment to move ahead, that will be the end of Hillary Clinton's campaign. Period. She may think she can march on despite charges, but that would be self-delusional. Her campaign will be finished the day charges are filed by Obama's Justice Department.

    9. She can't claim "politics as usual" or that old "right-wing conspiracy" nonsense as this will be Obama's Justice Department — not a Republican-controlled entity — bringing these charges.

    10. Now, even without an indictment, Hillary Clinton's fortunes are rapidly sinking.
     
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    Just a reminder...


    we have been told by the Right and Rightwing Media for TWENTY-THREE YEARS that Bill or Hillary Clinton are "doomed any day now" and destined "to lose the election" if not "going to jail."
     
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    Hey Gorno..........have you seen what's going on in Europe?
    NATIONALISM on the rise everywhere.........AND.......just today the Swedish military issued a statement setting the table for a coup. Austrian generals also went on TV to explain their extraordinary measures needed to stave off the Muslim rapefugee invasion to the Austrian people.

    And of course............who's that candidate leading the pack all you lefties keep calling a.............Nationalist?

    But then again.....we both always knew I was gonna be right.
    Das vidanyia
     
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    just a reminder


    this is the first time they have been investigated by a liberal administrations Justice Department for public corruption and transfer of Classified material
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    Your point being what, that that is a sign of no wrong doing on their part? Bill avoided jail by a plea bargain yet paid HUGE fines and lost his license to practice law for 5 years. Hillary did so by having her cohorts fall on their swords and got to jail in her place and then playing dumb and stupid in her depositions. I this acceptable behavior to you for government officials?
     
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    it is the status quo for the Republictrats. Unfortunately the public has caught on , hence the Donalds and Bernies rise in the polls The peasants are getting wise. If this were the 18th century they would be pilloried then assailed with mud, dead cats, rotten eggs, potatoes, and buckets filled with blood, offal, and dung while the peasants brought picnic baskets to the festival and had a high old time
     
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    Hillary and the Suspension of Disbelief

    "In ironic fashion, Hillary’s own vocabulary best describes her conduct. A 'willing suspension of disbelief' most aptly sums up Hillary Clinton’s disastrous 2016 primary campaign, which so far seems more disastrous than her 2008 disastrous campaign."

    https://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/hillary-and-suspension-of-disbelief/
     
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    Hillary is toast.

    Such a corrupt, slimey liar circling the drain makes it really tasty toast, lightly buttered with cinnamon. Mmmm.
     
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    Thanks for the few choice accurate words. If you will, take another look at thread starter above, and give me an honest opinion of this "nut case' and his Alabama back woods education. He woke up full of it, and as of now he hasn't spent the necessary duty in the bathroom...full of it you might agree. He spends all his "idle time" and that is basic most 23 hours a day watching the Foxuk News channel on his hands and knees sucking it all in. One thing he should do, is move out of the State of Alabama so the states IQ would increase, but the worst thing where he would move the IQ would be lowered.

    We both know there's not going to be anying takin place in regards to Clinton facing any charges. The FIBI director is a Obama appointee, and well the Attorney General of the Justice Dept.
     
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    GOP faith in the integrity of the criminal justice system is odd given recent history. HRC will be indicted if and when Obama wants her indicted.
     
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    Are you ready to give up on RW blogs yet? Is it time for an intervention?
     

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