The Berniephobes are wrong

Well, thank you for acknowledging that religion has no place in decisions like these made by the government. Cause that’s my expert advice.

 

If only I knew of a decision made by religion in government recently.

 

And such ignorance is even more prevalent in the progressive/socialist/G*dless world.

 

Recently ? Pence is admittedly a science denier. He shouldn’t be involved in anything where science is involved.

 

I don't agree with either of your opinions. Sorry.

 

Again, from that which I quoted previously:

"Our staff has years of experience treating patients in the Emergency Room." (Caps added)

 

Big deal. That doesn’t make an urgent care facility the same as an ER facility. They have different missions. Move on. You’re barking up the wrong tree. I was a military first responder for a decade. Let it go.

 

If your point is simply that "Emergency Room" is a term that is not interchangeable with "Urgent Care Facility," I will certainly grant the truth of that. No problem.

But that was hardly my point.

Perhaps it is you who needs to "move on."

 

Because, you made faulty statements. Now it’s convoluted to just, ER v Urgent care when originally, it was.....
conservatives keep trying to make the point that anyone gets full healthcare in the ER and they are wrong. They don’t get it in “urgent care” either. The only thing the law provides, is critical care in the ER. People die without insurance and without full range HC. People die when they have high deductibles. People die when their copays are too high. All of this is due to private insurance and the money making priorities they exert on the healthcare system. It’s totally in the hands of conservatives who have held up UHC for decades who have the inane idea that “for profits” should provide health insurance and heal5hcare.

 

Your point was, ER s treat people who aren’t in critical condition....

This is your post.....and it’s wrong.
Everyone who goes into the ER is treated first, like they are in critical condition. When it’s finally determined they aren’t, they are referred to other facilities, the other facilities REQUIRE PAYMENT AS DID THE ORIGINAL ER visit. You are under the impression that the hospitals magically do what ? Dont charge anyone for their costs ? That’s ridiculous. The government ends up paying for it if the uninsured doesn’t qualify for help and because everyone is first treated critically, it’s the most expensive form of HC.

 

You are fill of it, they are stabilized and then if respond to that will be hospitalized, no one is turned away with a condition like the coronavirus.

Please stop bull-crapping about what you know nothing of.

Again totally incorrect, they absorb the costs until they can pad it into patients who are insured.

You are clueless, maybe get a clue before posting anymore of your drivel.

 

Only if they choose to eschew healthcare, because they would rather go without healthcare than to pay those copays and deductibles (and coinsurance--which you did not mention; but which is quite different from copays).

Again, it is a choice--which liberals (evidently) do not think should be left to individuals; but should be made by a (supposedly) omniscient government.

In any case, "free" healthcare is not really free. It is paid for through higher taxation.

Unlike liberals, I would much rather have low taxation, coupled with meager government services, than to have high taxation, coupled with generous government services.

In fact, I do not even consider it to be a close call.

 

Many hospitals are nonprofit ones--as is the only one in my own community.

So please do not pretend that all hospitals--or even most--are just like any other business.

 

When people are wrong, they change the subject. Now you’re claiming I said it was like any other business. I did no such thing...quote it. You’re funny.....
many are non profit ?
Most are non profit.
That has nothing to do with you being wrong about the ERs.
It cost lots of money to treat people at the ER, more so then in any other HC type facility, whether the hospital is profit or non profit. Healthcare facilities are classified according to their mission, and the ER is the most expensive for the reasons I have stated. The big ones include surgeons and surgical facilities, including mri and cat scan diagnostic tools are all at the ready and open scheduled. That’s really expensive way to treat a cold....but keep posting made up stuff, it sounds like a Trump replay. .


Are “we” still insisting they treat everyone including non critical patients in the ER ?
Funny....

 

The United States is the “dumbest “country in the world when it comes to healthcare and the budget. They are now headed for their next recession like a freight train and little will stop it. This will be 10 of the last 11.

The government goes bankrupt because the GOP when in power plays give a way with its tax dollars. Just like the last recession, the middle class will be left holding the bag.
Right now, the GOP lead administration is planning to spend even more money then it has. Of course, taxing rich corporations, many of which pay zero in taxes, is way too late.

Just like Bush, they’ll hand the recession, along with raging pandemic over to the the Dems to clean up the mess.

 

Non-responsive.

But I think it qualifies as a rant.

 

That's a total lie, spending and taxation is controlled by the House, which is under the control of the Democrats.

You really don't seem to know too much about civics.

 

Another republican lead recession. They’re experts at it.

 

Denial.

 

Again: Non-responsive.

But again, it does manage to get in your (quite angry) talking points...

(Note: Whereas "read" and "read"--one with a long "E," the other with a short "E"; and one representing the present tense, and the other representing the past tense--will certainly work, the same is not true of "lead." The past tense is led.)

 

Okay.

If you think that it equals "denial" to note that your post was non-responsive, and qualified as a mere rant, then you are certainly free to do so...

 

Everything was true. Calling it a rant, simply means you can’t prove anything I said was false.

 

The EXIT Polls Are Not Adding UP
I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT !



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I do not intend to prove, as false, a mere rant that was entirely non-responsive to the subject at hand.

Put another way: I do not wish to be a party to thread derailment...