The coming indictment of Donald Trump will break his power: former Obama lawyer

I would give him what he says he wants--a thorough investigation of the election. But it would be a commission of people with real integrity, not grandstanding elected political opponents. They would be charged with looking into issues Trump raised, but also into Trump's behavior.

You know what I'm talking about. Trump took an oath he didn't honor.

Trump should be buried politically. I'm doing your job for you.

Correct. They are less educated overall.

Maybe because I taught high school for three decades, the first ten were in a small high school in a rural community, developed work experience programs in my next school, and was involved in school district politics.

I grew up in a rural area that morphed into a uber-rich Los Angeles suburb. My mother was the mayor. My father has an engineering degree and a drawer full of patents, mostly in hydraulics. I took care of horses starting at 10-years-old. I graduated from high school and went to college at 16. Not much ghetto, although I did attend LA City schools because the rural school district stopped at Grade 8.

My uncle was from a rural community, went to West Point, got a Masters in Journalism after WW2, and ended up a USA Major General. My farther-in-law was a Missouri farm boy, commandant of test pilots, got his engineering degree after WW2, and finished up a USAF Colonel. Not bad for "rural" kids. That said, I lived in the community where I taught and know about rural communities. But not from personal observation, but studying the shortcomings of public schools in rural communities.

 

Similar to my father. He was head of advanced airplane design at Northrop Corp, quit to work at various LA area defense firms after getting a business degree.

If I had stayed with defense work, I probably would be someone who wrote software for your weapons systems. One thing about software--they only care if you can create it. My wife's cousin started his own software after high school and ended up vice president at Sega.

I think you had what sounds like a rewarding career. Helping our guys survive and succeed has to be a good feeling.

 

An investigation doesn't charge anyone, it just brings facts into the light of day. Why be against THAT?

Trump honored every oath he took. He never took an oath to hide facts or stop questioning anything.

Trump did a great job keeping my family safe and prosperous... from clobbering ISIS to tax breaks to strengthening the military to actual SIGNED middle east peace accords to keeping NOKO at bay and more. He had a big mouth and and a huge ego... but that didn't effect my family's security or prosperity in any way. I've known many Generals and Secretary-level government guys, as well as CEO's of organizations like L-3, Boeing and Lockheed. Humility gets you to Heaven... not to the White House.

Rural voices are less educated? I'm a rural voice.. with a BSEE from West Point and an MBA from Missouri, some significant engineering accomplishments with Boeing and Lockheed, a retired Army LTC. Just a "hick", huh?

When I lived in San Diego I was recruited to teach high school Physics. They had all sorts of folks with art, music, history, and other fluffy degrees but no one to teach math or science. They gave me a teaching cert without any teaching credits based on my engineering degree. The best job I ever had was as a basic Training Company Commander helping young troops to get started in new careers, so I taught for a couple of years. It was fun and rewarding, but it was California so the standards were low and I went back to industry.

Your dad had patents with hydraulic devices? I would have enjoyed talking with him. I did a lot of work with weapon hydraulics and had a patent for a laser aiming platform based on piezoelectric subsystems. It would have been a fun discussion.

Your uncle went to West Point? My uncle (dad's brother) was on Eisenhower's staff as his Chief Counsel. I have pictures of him at the Nuremburg Trials. I wonder if they ever ran into each other? My dad was an Artilleryman that fought his way from New Guinea to Leyte Gulf. Mom was an Army nurse in Europe. Maybe that's why I ended up at West Point... I'm sure it had an impact.

My father-in-law was an Arkansas farm boy. He retired as a Marine Lieutenant Colonel and had a second career as a sockbroker. He lived next to Bob Hope in Palm Springs (before he built the huge house on the hill) and handled Bob' portfolio. My wife has some amazing stories from her high school and college days about fun times with the "Rat Pack" in he years before I met her.

I didn't get into college until I was 19. I spent a year Enlisted before entering West Point in 1971. A few years ago I got an e-mail from a General. He said he was just a kid that enlisted but his Basic Training Company Commander urged him to apply for West Point. That Commander was me.

But I guess i'm just an uninformed rural "hick"... huh?

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Software guys always intrigued me. While I was still in uniform I had a hand in helping develop what would become the internet. The internet was actually born of a military concept designed to create an "uninterruptible messaging system' for nuclear weapon release messages. The task was given to DARPA. They created a primary contract with BBN (Bert, Baonek and Neumann) in Cambridge for the softare, and Perceptronics in National City, CA for the hardware. Lots of subcontracts were let after that, especially with academia.

My peripheral task was to provide a capability within the system to allow "dissimilar simulators" to play on a common simulated battlefield. This would allow Apache pilots in simulators at Ft Rucker to "play" in real time with guys in tank simulators at Ft Knox against a common enemy. Fun stuff.

I remember meeting with the BBN leadership in the early days. We flew onto their campus at Cambridge in a Blackhawk. As we disembarked we were watched three guys walk up. All in expensive Armani suits and looking sharp. I figured one was the CEO, another the COO or CFO. But I knew the guy with the pony tail and sandals was their software guru.

 

Good move. That no doubt got their attention. Very cool. Software guys I knew would have been impressed. A lot of the guys I know were flight simulator addicts. The wow factor of a Blackhawk would have been huge.

The software/computer culture wasn't around when I first started working with computers in the 1960s. It really started with microcomputers in the 1970s. I ran across the ponytail types when I started writing software for Apple // computers.

 

Software guys are an intriguing bunch. Ever go to your bank ATM and see changes in the menus and can't figure out why they were made? Its usually because software guys are between projects and seek to stay employed by making "improvements" whether they are needed or not.

I worked for Boeing Helicopters in Ridley Park once when they were developing the ill-fated "Comanche" helicopter. We had a huge project review with hundreds of government folks in attendance. Each Boeing briefer had had been directed to include a slide addressing how that had reduced weight and space claim on the helicopter. When the software guy got up to brief, he went into a lengthy discussion of how his team had saved thousands of "one's and zeroes". His comments were obviously tongue-in-cheek, but his military audience sat their nodding their heads in approval. Meanwhile, the Program Manager was in the back of the room tearing his hair out. I had to leave the room because I started laughing so hard.

 

Only if they have a contract. They don't work for free.

Sounds like some of the computer types I knew. Pretense merits leg pulling, but some people just don't know and don't pretend they know.

 

An Early Trump Backer's Message to the Republican Party: Dump Him

https://news.yahoo.com/early-trump-backers-message-republican-125928519.html


a very gradual "awakening" .......?? (from the trump induced coma)

 

I want Dems to stay focused on Trump so we can elect the younger DeSantis and have him in the White House while the libs are still frothing at the mouth about Trump.

 

President Trump did not, and will never be convicted of any wrong doing. That’s just something your current corrupt political leaders are constantly shoving in your face so you will believe (and they are doing this successfully) that he is guilty.

In reality you are the guilty one for allowing your corrupt political leaders to allow illegals into our country at taxpayers expense to about billions of dollars.

 

I bet you're correct on trump being found guilty.

My current political leaders? I vote president, 2 congress people and 2 senators. Not even every election cycle. So you lost me there.

So, my post said trump hasn't been convicted of anything.
So what the hell is the purpose of your post???????????????

 

What??

 

Funniest quote EVER IN ANY FORUM IN HISTORY!!!!

Please sir, show the members of this forum and I when this has happened.

 

B and H Clinton. Obama. Biden will be. But being in politics for 40 yrs, I am sure he's been investigated a few times.
Every politician at the National level is going to be vetted by voters and their opponents will look for any dirt they can find also.

 

But sir, I asked for proof, you’ve shown me none.

 

If Trump is ever elected to an office requiring international presence, I can assure you that NO ONE will pay the least attention to whatever carp he has to say.
And as the representative of the USA, the country will lose a great deal of power and influence. North Korea is still remembered for the farce it was .
He will be utterly ghosted.

 

Keep wasting time and effort focusing on Trump. Please. Let's get DeSantis ELECTED.

 

It isn't just what this lawyer says. We SAW what Trump was doing. We ALL did, even those who say they didn't are really just saying that because they approved of what Trump was doing.

If Garland decides not to prosecute Trump at this point I don't see how Biden can have any ethical alternative to firing him

 

Libs are so emotional. They hate Trump. Thank God they can't get him for trespassing, the only substantive charge that applies for 6 January.

 

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Yes, definitely. It's the closest thing I've seen to a Nazi takeover of the US in my 74 years (by Nazi meaning race-based fascist)

 

Not gullible, just race and ethnically based fascist. That is not a legitimate ideology in this country since it blatantly contradicts our stated beliefs, though it does have numerous adherents here.

 

A disorganized, unarmed bunch of protesters occupy one building for a few hours and that worries you? Wow. Do you ever cross a street? MUCH more dangerous.

 

Oh no! The RACE CARD! LOLOL

 

What did you see Trump doing? I didn't even see that he was there.

It would be a benefit to the nation if he did fire him.

 

What is a "race-based fascist?"