The Cost of ‘Medicare-for-All’

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    You obviously don’t know what “ for profit “ means.
     
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    Private health insurance Costs 8% of the average citizens salary. The last time I looked, 8% was 2 and 2/3 times as much. You’re delusional.
     
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    Easy, the overhead for Medicare is 2% vs 12% for private insurance. Case closed.
     
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    I suppose you don’t believe in climate change either. Universal healthcare and climate change....there is only one political party and one world leader in the entire world that is out of step with reality.
     
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    Yea. That's been debunked for nearly a decade now. Let's try something that hasnt been debunked. The estimated $60 billion a year in current Medicare fraud.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...J7Mr&ust=1561316702228141&cshid=1561230295342

    This is also a low estimate using modeling more than anything else. I've seem some much larger estimates, but from less reliable sources, like advocacy groups.
     
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    Yes, thankfully he is here. Nothing will ever be done to prevent the climate from changing. The world would never abide by the things that would need to be done to reverse the damage we did and are doing. With those facts in mind, it's pointless to argue about.

    As for govt healthcare, no thanks. We have seen what govt healthcare is when you look at the VA. Why would anyone want a bigger version of that?
     
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    Debunked, where ?
    So, the entire free world is wrong.
    You’re seeing stars. No where in the entire world does any political party but republicans believe that non profit healthcare insurance is cheaper then for profit.
    They also lead in recessions too.
     
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    Just as we thought. You don’t know what climate change is really about. You’re two for two on the Hannity talking points but out of step with reality. You’re now officially smarter then the entire free world. Pretty bold of you.
     
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    Yes. Debunked. And back in 2011.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw1zhfqYCtlStVpadcIUanpX&ust=1561318154162235

    So what is climate change really about if it's not about the climate changing?
     
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    You really don’t know do you ? Ha ha
    It’s disingenuous to criticize anything you know absolutely nothing about. Especially if it’s backed be every free country, every major research institute, every major corporation and every accredited university in the world.
     
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    So a direct question is answered by deflection. I guess you dont know what you are talking about.

    Well, isnt it all opinion? We dont have any actual evidence to base this on.
     
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    I know EXACTLY what I’m talking about as does every accredited university in the entire world. It’s apparent that a small group of naysayers have talking points that make them appear laughable and uniformed.
    Really, do a little research before you say things like, “climate change” is just about the climate changing.

    Your the one disagreeing with MIT our military and every other nation....not me.
     
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    So if climate change isnt about the climate changing, what is it about? Why do all of these people and institutions use the term "climate change" if its not about the changing climate?
     
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    They probably figure you’ll do a little research on your own instead of listening to Vice President Hannity.
    You still don’t get it.
     
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    I NEVER said it was not about the climate changing.
     
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    Lots of deflection and not a single answer. Obviously you are just a really really bad troll. I'm guessing China.
     
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    I’m the bad troll ? I’m the one agreeing with all the other nations, major institutions and major corporations of the entire world. You’re not. I’m the normal one.
     
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    The ones that are getting free care now and are already included in your cost analysts?
     
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    I know what "for waste" means.
    Worthless, unproductive government workers sitting on their asses making a ton more money and benefits than their private counterparts, and golden contracts for every bureaucrat's brother in law
     
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    I'm quite aware of what "for profit" means. It was illegal in health care until it was heavily subsidized and encouraged by liberal legislation beginning with the HMO Act.

    Except that if I paid 8% of my income for private insurance, I would immediately receive a benefit.

    Medicare requires me to pay 3% of my lifetime earnings, and a large portion of other Federal taxes, to even qualify to be eligible to receive it.

    Then I must pay more taxes, a very high premium, buy supplemental insurance, and still have absolutely zero coverage for the health care I will actually need when I'm old.

    It's apparent that you don't know who runs Medicare
     
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    No one is getting free healthcare.
     
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    All fake. 3%, that’s it. Everything you say is a promotion for Medicare for all. No one in the world wants our system.
     
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    Tell that to the military.
     
  25. dagosa

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    Oh, is that your experience working at Burger King ?
    Maybe then everyone should work for the government.
     
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