The Day Israel attacked America - a national cover-up

I had heard about the U.S. Liberty incident in 1967 when Israeli jets attacked a U.S. naval vessel, but I thought the attack was "ex-news" because Israeli investigations had concluded "reasonable conduct" by the IAF and U.S. investigations had assigned no culpability. It seems that I was wrong. Thanks to E. Eagan, a Wiki editor, for this link and the embedded video.

I did not realise that Israel was so close to America that a cover-up of the deaths of U.S. servicemen would be sanctioned.

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes...el-attacked-america-20141028144946266462.html

 

The US liberty had no business being in a war zone, and at that time the US was not really an Ally. I mean why not be pissed at the Brits for burning down the White House?

 

We got pretty pissed at Japan for attacking the Panay.

 

The US had no right being in international waters, interesting idea, why?

 

I said no business, stop with straw-men bull(*)(*)(*)(*) please.

 

Why would we have no business in international waters?

 

Because there was a hot war going on in the area, and this ship was a spy ship gathering intelligence. Not a move you make expecting to be perfectly safe. The ship knew the danger, so did the Navy.

 

It also had a massive American flag on it and identified itself many times as an American vessel over open channels.

If the Israelis had only struck it once, it could be called an accident. They attacked it multiple times over the span of hours. That is deliberate action.

 

I did not say it was an accident, like I did say... The US was not an Ally of Israel in that war, this was a spy ship, also I do not think this was an executive decision this was a tactical mistake by the IDF. In any case it was a minor engagement, much less then our Allies the British and Germans did to the US. The British straight up jacked our ships and forcefully took American sailors prisoners.... who cares this was long time ago and has no meaning today.

 

This was less than 60 years ago and the Israelis committed a deliberate act of war against us.

 

So there is a arbitrary amount of time that makes things more or less relevant? 70 years ago our Allies the Germans killed many more Americans then in this event, today that is meaningless. 60 years ago means the leaders on both sides are mostly dead, the people involved are pretty damn old. What relevance does this have today?

 

Its just one of many examples showing that Israel are not allies of the US and never have been. We are convenient support for them and they will never reciprocate as allies. They are parasites.

 

It is the one and only example you made, so lets stay on that. Like I already said the US and Israel were not Allies in that period of time. Today and in the last few decades they have proved to be invaluable Allies both in weapons system development, and valuable intelligence.

 

Actually the attack was basically

a cluster of napalm bombs dropped on the deck.

Israeli jets strafing the superstructure.

One torpedo fired by an Israeli gunboat which killed most of those who died.

Brief machine gun fire from the gunboats.

Identifying targets in war time is horrendously difficult.

Remember the U.S. lit up a British Warrior Mechanized Fighting Vehicle during Desert Storm (by two A-10s) and 9 British servicemen were killed.

You don't here the British whining about that.

And shouldn't this be in the conspiracy forum?

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What about during the Vietnam War? Its estimated in the book "Dark Eagles" that Soviet fighters shipped from Israel to the U.S. ended up saving hundreds of American pilots in combat.

 

Weapon systems that we funded and could have been developed in the US without them.

As for intelligence, they spy on us (after the Soviet Union, the most number of Anericans convicted of espionage were spying for Israel) and sell our classified technological information to countries like China. The little Intel they deign to give us, is not worth it.

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1. Did the British APC's have massive British flags on them and did they repeatedly identify themselves as British on the radio?

2. What is the source for this claim in that book?

 

Most of that is opinion.

 

Most of it is fact. We funded Iron Dome and most other Israeli weapon systems. Israelis do spy on us and do sell our technology to our enemies.

 

I really wish the Right would just be as blatant as a poster who used to be on here a couple years ago. He openly admitted that he supported Israel because it was necessary for the return of Jesus and that he would continue to support them even if they put Palestinians in concentration camps and started gassing them.

 

This old story only appears to be important to people that hate Isreal.

 

Like how the Right loves to bring up the Iranian Hostage Crisis.

 

It is very relevant.

It is a glaring illustration that sovereign powers do not have friends, they only have interests.

Incidentally, if you think it is no longer relevant, you really ought to be telling this to the US naval officer corps. They have a long memory and have not forgotten the Liberty. There was a mini-revolt in the pentagon when rumors that Pollard would be released were floated.

 

We did help fund Iron Dome, and in exchange they shared their know how and now we both have a working anti missile system. More then could be said about the 700 billion fiasco the F35 has been.

 

Or that like America. Americans, for example.

 

Yeah, why did Bush and Republicans approve of that weapon system?

 

We should never be gathering intelligence while our ALLIES are executing POWs just a few miles away. It's just bad form.