The Day Israel attacked America - a national cover-up

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From personal experience I would say it is very difficult to confuse a Mirage with any other combat aircraft. The complete lack of a tail-plane because of the delta wing is what makes it so hard to confuse the two. You might confuse a Harrier with a Skyhawk but even the most ignorant grunt knew what a Mirage(or derivative) looks like.
     
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    Actually military personnel misidentifying aircraft is an old and ongoing.

    Remember Mig-21s, the most common modern fighter (post World War Two) is delta winged.

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    You do know that the U.S. has been fighting the Muslims for centuries BEFORE modern Israel was created or the first oil well was drilled.

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    The Liberty was attacked near the very end of the Six Day War.
     
  3. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Mig 21 is a Tailed Delta easily distinguishable from a delta by the deltas total lack of a bloody great tail!

    Who knows how long the six day war would of lasted if the Liberty had been destroyed as the Israeli's intended.
     
  4. Questerr

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    Not from all angles. Especially from head on, it would be hard to tell the difference between the two while you are being shot at.
     
  5. Bluespade

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    How did Israel cover the USS Liberty incident up?
    Eyewitness testimony says the ship was clearly marked as a American ship, and Israel's war planes attacked anyway.

    The administration of LBJ issued a report that the Israelis did mistake the USS Liberty for a enemy ship.
    So who did the covering up to the Anerican people?
     
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    I find it infinitely amusing how anti-Israeli xenophobes are still obsessing over an incident that occurred 50 years ago.

    Why stop there? Because it's Israel?

    Why not obsess over what the British did to us during the Revolution and War of 1812? They invaded our country and burned our capital, for crissakes.

    Why not obsess over what the Barbary States did to our ships and their crews and passengers during the late 18th and early 19th Centuries? Why not obsess over what the Spanish allegedly did to the USS Maine? You're really concerned about the attacks on our ships, or is it that your outrage is merely the selective variety that only manifests itself when Israel is involved?

    Why not obsess over World War II, which involved another attack on the United States itself, and negatively alter our relations with Germany, Japan and Italy over it?

    Obviously, these are rhetorical questions. Everyone knows the answer why not...:blownose:
     
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    Fighting some pirates on trade routes isn't the same as what us going on now.
     
  8. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Technologically, yes. Ideologically, no.

    Sounds strikingly familiar, doesn't it?

    Osama bin Laden cited similar verses in the Qur'an (ex., the Verse of the Sword, IX:5) when he declared war on America...
     
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    Sure you didn't.

    Keep telling yourself that.
     
  10. Herkdriver

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    I find it, well amusing, for questioning some of Israel's motives is somehow rooted in anti-semitism. As though we're supposed to blindly give them billions of our tax dollars in aid and technology without having a say in how these weapons of war are used. Do folks know Israel sold technology to China, technology America provided?

    Judaism is intricately linked to the Tribes of Israel. They are "the Chosen people" and do not accept true converts. One has to literally be born a Jew to be regarded as part of the faith. It is a very xenophonic religion, certainly compared to Christianity which accepts converts from all nationaltities...including, yes Jews.

    There are several Jewish converts to Catholicism in my parish. I would not be so welcome in their Temple, as a gentile however...I'm not part of "the tribe" to be considered a true follower of Judaism.

    Judaism is xenophobic by it's very nature. It denies conversion to gentiles, something even Islam does not do to non-Arabs.
     
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    You cannot convert to being chosen, only God can dictate that. Only other way is through marriage, and even then your a guest member. What is wrong with this? If you are a Christian you should understand that Jews are the chosen people, otherwise you go against your own bible.
     
  12. klipkap

    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Because this attitude is still prevalent amongst campaign-fund seeking U.S. politicians?
    Because it remains disrespectful to loyal U.S. servicemen?
    Because those servicemen are still petitioning for justice?
     
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    So you disagree with the servicemen who were there and who listened to the tapes?

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    The Germans were brought to justice by the U.S. It was called the Nuremburg trials. The Israelis were not. I see a BEEEEEG difference, not a similarity.
     
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    Is see allot (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about Israel attacking a US Naval ship, but nobody wanting to hold their own government accountable for covering up the incident.
     
  15. klipkap

    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Not true. What is your source?
    "The recognition of shared values has been a consistent theme in statements by American Presidents ever since Truman."
    "the United States was the first nation to grant de facto recognition to the new Jewish State—11 minutes after the proclamation."
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/roots_of_US-Israel.html
    "During Lyndon B. Johnson's presidency, US policy shifted to a whole-hearted, but not unquestioning, support for Israel. .... during Lyndon B. Johnson's presidency America's policy took a definite turn in the pro-Israeli direction". He added: "The June war of 1967 confirmed this impression "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–United_States_relations
    "The United States was the first country to recognize Israel as a state in 1948. Since then, Israel has become, and remains, America’s most reliable partner in the Middle East. Israel and the United States are bound closely by historic and cultural ties as well as by mutual interests." - http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3581.htm
    1966: "Following the turning over of the MiG-21, President Johnson invited Prime Minister Levi Eshkol to his ranch in Texas and Eshkol arrived with a long shopping list. He left with promises of future U.S. military supplies, including A-4 attack aircraft." - http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/751
     
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    Did you watch the video? The Israeli tape reveals clearly that they knew the ship was American. Apologist response rejected.
    Absolutely not. The facts are documented, verifiable and transparent. Why do you thing the servicemen are conspiring against the U.S.A. - I would be very interested to know.
     
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    LOL Michael Orens book from the same year is still a best-seller on Amazon.

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    True, but they always avoid any recognition that that crisis was directly due to the CIA explicit involvement in the overthrow of Iran's first and only democratic government. Oh no .... Faux News will never tell them that.
     
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    Where the British Captains brought to justice for kidnapping American sailors?

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    None of those constitute an alliance. Like I said in 1966 the US had interests in countering Soviet influence.
     
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    For the same reason that the West Bank occupation by Israel is "justified" by what happened in the same year - 1967. Can't have your cake and eat it, mate.
    And why is Pearl Harbour still an issue - much longer ago. O.K. - sorry - I withdraw that - it happened on hallowed U.S. soil.
     
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    Oh yes, I do. That is why the Vietnam war is a national U.S. disgrace, just like the U.S.S. Liberty should be a national Israeli disgrace, but has been carefully covered up for 50 years.
     
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    So was the declaration of independence, the Nuremberg trials, the terms of the Japanese surrender, the granting of Guantanamo Bay to the U.S., the signing of the U.N. Charter and the Geneva conventions; the ....

    Should we toss all of those out. No way José.4
     
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    So all of those well-trained American servicemen were lying? Are you serious with that excuse?
     
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    Rubbish. A well-trod Zionist Myth. General Moshe Dayan disagreed with you. So does Amy Gluska's very well-researched book. The IAF started the 1967 war with Syria - the Israeli media reported that clearly in May 1967 - again --- see Gluska and also Israeli hisorian Tom Segev's book "1967" in which he trashes Michael Oren's fable based on impeccably detailed source references.
     
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    In 1967, America observed the Arab boycott and did not sell American weapons to Israel.
    Israel made its' own or purchased from France or Czechoslovakia.
    America parked a communications specialized ship between Israel and Egypt.
    The ship was most likely commandeered by the CIA similar to the Pueblo and with no cover.
    Isreal had every right to take out a ship that could be intercepting Israeli communications and passing them
    on to those who were going to "push Israel into the sea".

    Some ( )0( ) 's just love the propaganda without an understanding of that time in History.
    Or maybe they do know the history but, :heart: to jerk off on the propagada of it.
    Tell Moi, Klipkat - which is it for you.

    Or did you learn Eisenhower, JFK & LBJ were pro Arab, anti Israeli.
    Observant of the Arab Boycott.​



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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    This one pops up from the anti-Semites time and again.
     

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