The Day Israel attacked America - a national cover-up

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  1. Oxymoron

    Oxymoron Well-Known Member

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    Cause they were idiots?
     
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    And needs to come up as a topic in 2016 why ?
     
  3. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    I believe there is almost no need for Israel to spy on us. Split-allegiance Israelis are at every level of our defense and intelligence agencies that Bibi knows what we are doing before Obama does. There used to be a thing called the Defense Policy Board which was headed up by Richard Perle. He had been accused by the CIA of spying for Israel decades ago when he worked for Scoop Jackson, but he lawyered-up and the charges were dropped or dismissed. The Defense Policy Board's office was IN THE FREAKING PENTAGON BUILDING and Richard Perle resigned his job within a week of getting the Iraq War started. There are no U.S. secrets that Israel doesn't have.
     
  4. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stop making stupid statements then, no business is worse actually, intelligence ship in a war zone, where do you think its business is?
     
  5. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you know that the Spanish did not sink the battleship Maine?

    Or that N. Vietnam did not attack a US Destroyer?

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    Because hatred of Jews is the oldest and most widespread bigotry in the world, that's why. Some people search for any possible way to attack Jews. Jews are still the #1 victims of hate crimes in the USA. So we have another Jew-hating OP. Nothing new about that.
     
  6. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The video claims that the tape of Israeli Pilots confirming it was a US ship 20minutes before the attack has never been played on air and the people involved in negotiations have never been named.
     
  7. Herkdriver

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    The USS Liberty was a Navy technical research ship....basically a surveillance ship.
    What bothers me the most are reports of lifeboats being attacked by Israeli torpedo boats..that my friends is a war crime.

    Israel planned a seizure of Syria’s Golan Heights, which occurred the next day..and the ship’s listening devices would likely have overheard Israeli military communications planning this.

    The attack on the Liberty was a false flag operation.
     
  8. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And equally nothing new in the claim that anyone criticizing Israel is a Jew hater, got anything to say about why this ship was attacked?
     
  9. Andrew Jackson

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    It is ancient history. Big deal.
     
  10. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I can't do that because though I'm a Christian I don't think modern day Israel has any relevance to the prophecies in Revelation.
     
  11. Dayton3

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    Complete BS.

    The Liberty was off the coast of the Sinai peninsula. Hundreds of miles away from the Golan Heights operation.

    As for the famous "big flag flying over the Liberty". Neither of the Liberty's flags unfurled due to the direction the ship was traveling combined with the wind direction.

    And radio calls can be imitated.

    If the Israelis wanted to destroy the Liberty why didn't they? There was no support on the way. Instead the torpedo boats disengaged once they closed sufficiently to visually identify the ship via its hull markings.
     
  12. Dayton3

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    Yes and no.

    What we refer to as the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" where the North Vietnamese boats were claimed to have attacked the U.S.S. Maddox and Turner Joy never actually happened.

    But what so many people overlook is that TWO DAYS earlier in broad daylight the NVs DID attack one of those destroyers. We know this for absolute certain because the NV government protested after one of their boat captains was killed by the destroyers return fire.
     
  13. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They launched five torpedoes, what saved the liberty was Israeli incompetence because only one torpedo hit. They disengaged when the Liberty managed to get a radio message out to the supporting fleet.
     
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    Radio signals travel real far especially when you have sensitive antennas.
     
  15. Hoosier8

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    Really? This thread is started new time and again. What is it with people like this?

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    The same old story, posted time and again? Get a life.
     
  16. Dayton3

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    Signal intelligence is better the closer you are.

    And why would Israel want to hide their assault on the Golan? The artillery attacks by the Syrians from the Golan on Israeli farms and villages was one of the prime reasons for the war in the first place and everyone knew it.

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    And the boats made no effort to launch a follow up salvo either.
     
  17. Herkdriver

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    The Navy Captain received a Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions. The fact remains lifeboats were attacked and Israel knew full well this was a U.S. spy ship and attacked it as a diversion for their plan the following day to seize the Golan Heights area of Syria.
     
  18. RiaRaeb

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    They disengaged only when the fleet got a signal indicating who the attackers were, or in other words when the ship could no longer be sunk and blamed on someone else!
     
  19. JakeJ

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    No. The USA and Israel worked it out.

    If you have a point, make it. ALL leaders - civilian and military - are not longer in position and likely few are even still alive. SO... if this is NOT just you posting messages hating on Jews, post to your thread you started about the false claim that N. Vietnam attacked a US destroyer as THE justification for war in Vietnam - and your thread raging about us going to war with Spain falsely claiming Spain had sunk the USS Maine?

    After all, UNLESS YOU ARE JUST ATTACKING ISRAEL OUT OF HATE OF JEWS OVER LONG PAST HISTORY - you would be FAR, FAR, FAR more upset about false claims and cover-ups that cost MANY, MANY, MANY more AMERICAN lives.

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    So, what's your point?

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    Because they are not idiots like our current president who pre-announces attacks to give the enemy the opportunity to prepare and flee. Their leaders actually CARE about the lives of our troops and about military success. Our president only cares what the media-left thinks.
     
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    My point. Israel would be a smoking hole in the ground if not for the United States. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. They are under the illusion they are fully capable of defending themselves...which is easy enough to say from the shade of a giant behind you.

    The U.S, has been instrumental in both pushing for the realization of a Jewish State and in the defense of it.

    Certainly the U.S. has made serious mistakes, for example the downing of an Iranian civilian airliner by a Navy missile frigate in 1988, but if I were Israel, I'd acknowledge what happened and minimally offer condolences for the American lives lost.
     
  21. Dayton3

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    So? He was awarded the Medal of Honor (it is not "Congressional"). There are lots of disputes about whether lifeboats were attacked or not. At any rate if they were attacked it was before any American sailors had boarded them.

    And there is not a shred of evidence that the attack on the Liberty was the least bit related to the attack in the Golan.

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    It wasn't a "missile frigate". It was the U.S.S. Vincennes, one of the first Ticonderoga class cruisers.

    Get your basic facts right.
     
  22. Oxymoron

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    They won the Six day war with out our help, they won their independence without our help. They would not have needed the US if the Soviets had not armed the Arabs, and the US needed Israel to counter Russian interests in the region. Don't make it out as some kind of handout.
     
  23. Dayton3

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    Indeed the only time the U.S. could legitimately be said to have "saved Israel" was with the Operation Nickel Grass airlift in 1973 during the Yom Kippur War.

    And if the Soviets had not lavishly supplied the Egyptians with SA-2 and other missiles along with ZSU-23 anti aircraft guns it probably wouldn't have been necessary at all.
     
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    Going from memory I think I did pretty good....the internet makes everyone an expert these days.
     
  25. RiaRaeb

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    My point is simple, it has nothing to do with your paranoia that Israel is criticized because they are Jews and everything to do with what she does.

    But of course the numerous false flag attacks made by Israel should not be spoken of, less some paranoid idiot accuse you of Jew Hate, even if you are a Jew. Sick to death of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hypocrisy.
     

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