The Failed Cover-Up

They scrambled to hide the phone call because they instantly knew he was out of line. He's often done this to his staff.. Remember the scramble when he told two Russian dignitaries about Israeli intelligence?

 

The desperation in this instance is especially amusing.

"Oh, yeah!
I suppose you'd rather have him reveal the the
top secret call to everybody in a 'Fireside Chat'!"?"
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Trump and Ivanka are the biggest leakers according to Steve Bannon..

 

Obama is educated and intelligent and his staff liked and respected him. I don't know how you could possibly compare Trump. Trump doesn't think and has no impulse control.

 

I usually try to put myself into the mindset of someone who is advocating something I can't agree with in an attempt to understand their position- see things as they claim they do. It's like a question I've long used in Lifeskills classes- "How would I have to be thinking in order to believe what they say they do?"

Sometimes that works well, but in the current political environment what I often see is complete abstraction from the facts- seeing anything that could be contorted into supporting a desired conclusion being seized on as absolute fact, and anything disputing that conclusion being dismissed as irrelevant or seized and portrayed as absolute lies or deception. This is what is called "situation ethics", taken to the extreme.

Now how does a rational man justify that position? A rational man cannot, does not and will not. That does leave me with an understanding of where they are at and what they are doing mentally- but it totally destroys their argument, their position and their credibility.

This is a self-deception which feeds on itself. Not much we can do to help a person in that position.

 

Your abstract musings are well and good, but the pertinent questions remains to be answered:
Who tried to hide Trump's telephone call with Zelensky and why?

 

You're being too kind to spiritgide. I am not. I refer to his posts as what they are.........

 

Who is out of their mind to the point that they think there is a point or issue?

When a babbling idiot come to your door and demands you allow them to question everyone in the house because they think they smelled a fart last week and think it may have come from your house.... you can bet it's a democrat. Probably in congress. Why in hell would you give them anything consideration at all?

The entire thing was done when the transcript was released, and the president of the Ukraine specifically stated that no such thing happened. Since then, we are dealing only with another smear campaign by people obsessed with the need to be right and their loss avenged, no matter what the facts are. Humoring idiots only encourages them and leads to more idiots thinking they are rational people. Bad policy.

Neither the democrats, nor anyone else has the right to investigate everything in the hopes of finding a crime- because doing so is a crime, and aiding and abetting such people should be.

If someone comes to your door and demands to know why you aren't allowing them to search your house for child porn or drugs because they dislike you and want you to be guilty of something, by all means- you should invite them in, because you agree with that mindset? Providing of course it doesn't apply to you, right?

The dems see absolutely nothing wrong with the behavior their own, of Hillary, Strozok, Comey and all the people who contrived and pulled what is probably the most outrageous political crime in history.
If and when you can get that in focus and hold those accountable, you might have some credibility with that question. More likely, you would be saying "Nevermind".

 

Of course, nobody knows more about blah-blah-blah than Atwater. Perhaps the only word in his vocabulary, where even those words he spells differently have the same meaning, and no matter if it is a post or an answer. Oh, I forget there are exceptions. He also is a master of presidential slander and libel language. Outhouse wall stuff.

 

Of course they did they'd kissing each others backsides sides since college

 

Are you still trying vainly to answer the question???

 

A lawyer reminding a federal officer that they are not to reveal or discuss confidential information can cost the lawyer his license???? How so? News Flash: revealing confidential information is a felony.

 

What does Hillary having been given a Get Out of Jail Free card have to do with anything?

 

This is a poor defense. The purpose of whataboutism is just a test to find out if one rails against action X sometimes and gives the same action a big yawn other times. When they do that it means they have no problem with action X... period... but just use it as a foil to lambast someone despised and support someone -- both doing the same action -- they like. So when one says Trump is bad because he did this or that it means nothing because what is being said in reality is Trump is bad because of whatever.

 

Based on that incoherent diatribe it appears someone in your house may have been smelling too many farts.

 

....................to avoid the subject at hand. If Trump plans to mount an effective defense it will fail (with everyone but his minions) if he tries to justify his actions by comparing them to inaccurate assertions about Hillary's.

 

WaPo: WH Record Of Trump-Zelensky Call Put Words In Ukrainian Prez’s Mouth, Official Testified
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...s-in-ukrainian-prezs-mouth-official-testified

The White House’s memorandum of the July 25 call between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky put words in the Ukrainian president’s mouth that he never said, a White House official testified this week.

The Washington Post reported Friday on the closed-door testimony of National Security Council’s European Affairs Director Alexander Vindman citing unnamed people familiar with his testimony.

 

Who tried to hide Trump's telephone call with Zelensky and why?

 

Incoherent is in the perception and understanding, Atwater. You see what you want; what is there never interests you except in that way.
A man that posts "Orange Turd" as an insult to the duly president of the nation as a matter of course, can't actually have a valid perception of anything.

 

Reminds me of the robotic thinking we first saw in sci-fi films, like "Resistance is useless- you will be assimilated-" crap, and now we are seeing regularly on the left. If they don't get the answer they want, they think if they ask another hundred times it will magically give them what they want.

Try asking the right question to yourself first-

WHY doesn't the left accept the facts in evidence that make that question irrelevant in the first place?



It's a dead horse, bumpo. The left lost again.

 

Ask your fellow posters on the right. They’re the ones who seem to think Trump is still running against her.

 

What facts do you feel make that question irrelevant?

 

If you were trying to display your writing bonafides with that sentence.........well..........all you achieved is making clear your propensity to embarrass yourself.

"WHY doesn't the left accept the facts in evidence that make that question irrelevant"

What facts?

 

Could you explain to me, if Hillary's crimes are so easily proven, why they have not been pursued by Trump's bagman?

 

Another horse-beater?

The handwriting has been on the wall clearly for some time- repeated over and over. If you can't read that, can't do relevant homework, repeating it for you won't help.