The FBI Lost 5 Months Worth of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump Agents .....

Ron Paul lays this out quite well, which of course the trump hating hillary voters will never accept. They will call him a tin foil hat wearer, which is one of their knee jerks when they do not like what they hear. And facts be damned! Let's see if this link will work, since it was live streaming as I listened to it awhile ago.



According to Paul, the FBI and certainly our CIA seem to lie quite often, to protect what Ron Paul called the deep state, but status quo, the powers that be, much older terms, might be better, since the existence of the deep state is also called tin foil hat material.

IF Paul is right, and so far it look as if he is, we have had a soft coup run on Trump, which includes the FBI, CIA, the obama justice dept and others. And yet will anyone get into trouble? Well, as Paul said, they never do in these times we live in. Now long ago, this would have concerned both dems and repubs, but we are so hyper divided, that the partisanship, the hyper partisanship which comes from this sick divide allows the corrupt in DC to remain free, so they can be corrupt and criminal for another day. This does seem to be our reality. As long as the left can continue to rant and rave and hate trump, they seem not to care that this republic is dead, its FBI corrupt, along with it own politicians who put up with this treason.

BTW, it seems according to Paul that our FBI has been criminal and corrupt, at the top, since its inception. But we do not care do we? As long as their criminality helps our party, or hurts the other party, or particular people in that party. Our gov't can remain corrupt and criminal due to our people, in their sick partisanship, allowing it and not demanding integrity, honesty and blind justice from those that rule over us and have the power to put us into prison. Of course, our refusal to demand these things, makes us just as corrupt as DC is. Except people like me of course, who are concerned with it, over partisanship. But my brain still has functioning brain cells, given I refuse to indulge in blind partisanship, and to be tribal. Being an anomaly on this forum, insures that I get accused of being blind follower of trump. But that comes from bipolar partisans, who cannot escape their own propaganda created conditioning. IMO of course.

 

I do believe we are looking at the biggest government scandal and cover up in the last 100 years. The end result will, hopefully, result in many people in prison for many years.

 

I agree, but I doubt anyone goes to prison. We no longer do that unless DC needs to offer up a sacrifice, to make the people think justice is blind in DC. It isn't. There were several hundred people in DC prosecuted for crimes during the reagan years. This no longer happens, and it is not because people in DC suddenly found Jesus. It is because the DOJ stopped doing its job when we became a corporate state, an oligarchy, which as we know from hard evidence, has not represented over 300 million.american citizens for decades. Only the few get represented. A fact. Which I expect the faux liberals will call tin foil hattery. If you are a big banker, you can laundry drug cartel money, billions, and walk. But the dems could not care less. All they are concerned about is hating trump and removing his from office. If they had to destroy the constitution, what is left of it, so be it. All that matter is their emotions. Their hatred. You can find an illustration of that here, on this forum. lol

 

And The Leftness denies that the constant harping and investigation into collusion between President Trump, who was then candidate Trump and Rossiya is politically motivated. Now when it is convenient, the email fiasco and the magically deleted or "disappeared" emails of Strzok are not politically motivated in an effort to hide the filthy hands of Democrats and possibly Hellary Clinton herself? You all need to stop while you are far behind. This reveals to me the desperation of Democrat operatives in the MSM, Democrats in general and the Globalist political machinery and how they truly view the public in country; they view us as useful idiots to be used to further their agenda of permanent influence and control. This gives reasoning in part as to why I do not trust people in government, the political apparatuses and the economic influences that have betrothed all of us.

 

EXCELLENT POST

 

With all your hyperbole and invective you claim I am not debating civilly? Sir curb your tone. We are talking THESE particular Clinton supportersand Trump opponents who WERE in a position to affect the PRESENTATION of the facts and evidence and had the power to affect the outcomes ams their concerted efforts to do so as we learn more and more everyday.

 

Gowdy din't create the memo, NUNES did !!!! Where did I claim Gowdy wrote any memo ? Nunes was given access to the classified data from the Mueller investigation, and from that he compiled a memo that he showed to a few Republicans and tried to cast doubt on the validity of the Mueller investigation (surprise surprise). He has refused to let any dems see it, and he has also refused to let the DOJ see it. So everyone is just supposed to buy it with out any concrete evidence of anything.

Dear lord man. You have no idea what the context of the comment was, and Nunes is doing everything he can to make sure you don't. THAT in itself casts doubt on the validity of the accusation.

The "insurance policy" they were referring to (again, context matters) were the polls showing Trump didn't have a chance !

EVERYTHING you posted is based on the memo Nunes wrote. The one they refuse to show any corroborating evidence, or even let anyone else read (including dems who have clearance)...THAT memo ? Yeah, you should put a lot of credence in that one......

And you could probably stop reading after the very first line:
Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA’s Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.

Really, they have access to everything and "possibly Trump".......christ on a bicycle......if they know everything else like the GCHQ were involved, that would require top security clearance to know right ? So if they know that, they would know Trump was/wasn't surveilled.

And the Justice dept set up the meeting in Trump Tower with the Russians ?.....good lord man, if they were trying to compromise him, then why wait until after the election, and the firing of comey, and the appointment of the special counsel to release that. The deep state would have used it to keep him out of office.

This sh1t is bordering on the ridiculous. They are counting on the lack of critical thinking individuals for this one. Simply amazing.....

 

BI texts that stand out: Peter Strzok says he has "a sense of unfinished business" that was "unleashed" by the Clinton email case. "Now I need to fix it" Strzok says. Later, he calls the Russia probe "an investigation leading to impeachment" BEFORE he has joined the Mueller team pic.twitter.com/3aFifIoQ73

— Sarah Westwood (@sarahcwestwood) January 23, 2018

 

You should prolly revisit recent history as to what they were actually investigating. I know that would be hard because then you would have to admit they weren't investigating Trump, they were investigating the Russians.

 

How do you "affect the presentation of FACTS" !!!!

Facts stand on their own merit. Well, unless your Trumps "alternative facts"

 

The Left used to be the targets of US secret police/spy agancies. The new Left must think the FBI/DOJ/CIA/NSA ... are their babies now. Idiots.

“Like the agitator concept, the claim of foreign influence is a means of discounting domestic unrest. Indeed, the agitator was classically a “foreign agitator”. The need to discredit the anti-Vietnam war movement of the 60s and early 70s, as well as campus and ghetto unrest, reinvigorated the foreign-influence and Moscow-Gold theories of the past, despite the fact that these movements were manifestly indigenous and Indeed typically quite opposed Soviet communism as well as its domestic (Old Left) supporters on the grounds of “bureaucracy”, “revisionism”, and repressiveness. The uncompromising reality did not, as I will show, deter the intelligence of evaluators, although their efforts were little value in discrediting their targets.” The Age of Surveillance, The Aims and Methods of America's Political intelligence System, Frank J. Donner, Alfred A. Knopf, Inc., New York, 1980, p. 19.

 

Will Trump be able to do anything in the end?

 

It looks like the best Trump can do is purge the agencies. Remove the abusers, as 702 remains intact until 2024. It WAS slated to be a permanent re-authorization ... so I guess there's a small concession won in that.

 

there phones were replaced.. they are not lost, they just need to request them from another place then their phones

the ISP will have all of these texts stored for like seven years

just like Trump's deleted tweets are still stored on Twitters backups

it does shock me that fbi agents would be dumb enough to use sms on their government issued phones for private political banter.... stupid

I would guess during an election year, most people say stupid political things, but you do not do it on work computers or phones

trump was shouting lock her up and most of his supporters were, now republicans are investigating her... by the rights logic only pro-hillary people can investigate hillary

if Trump was innocent, he would want those democrats there so it was believable when announced he was not guilty, now if he is guilty I could see why doesn't want them there

 

Ddyad,

I view the movements of the Leftness in this country starting from around the turn of last century as a sinister and malevolent force that was organized and constructed to cause civil unrest, strife, contention and revolution. The core of The Leftness thinking is the destruction of morality, which is the destruction of family which is the core of all societies. It has been bankrolled by the wealthy influenced peddlers; I give the example of Patricia Hearst and others like her. Yes much of the civil unrest in country during the sixties and seventies was organic but was infiltrated, as attested to by one of the Black Panthers, if I remember correctly, Fred Hampton, who stated that the Black Panthers wanted to go in one directed, but were maneuvered into another direction. There was something similar that took place with the Students of Democratic Change. The offshoot was the radical Weather Underground. The same took place in the 19 and 90s with the militia movements, Randy Weaver, Timothy McVeigh, etc. Every organic movement in this country is eventually infiltrated, not only by FBI and other counter intelligence agencies, but wealthy donors, contributors who only want to foment unrest to gain more control through their government operatives. Yeah, “through The Looking Glass” is what we are dealing with. Rona Paul is aware of this and so are many others. We are being herded like cattle for the purposes of control. Am I presenting conspiracy theory? NOT AT ALL!

 

we do not know yet, the coverup\obstruction will be what gets him

and that could be because of money laundering or whatever reason he has

remember Nixon did not burglarize the democrats either, but did try to cover it up

 

But Nixon did not use the FBI, CIA, and NSA to accomplish his deeds. That's what the previous administration did. That's an abuse unheard of during our country's short history. That is treason of the highest order.

 

I think they will get these texts, I also think they will get trump jr's personal emails, sure they will need court orders to get them from the ISP's, but they are not lost

 

Trump is taking it further then Nixon did for sure... but will it work.. time will tell

 

LOL...........Trump is the victim of Obama's abuses, and his henchmen. All this Russia noise is laughable, that's right out of the KGB handbook.

 

Trump is a victim of Trump, no one else

in 2018 and 2020 i think the republican party is gonna be a victim of Trump too

the best think the right can hope for is he is impeached before 2020, I kinda hope he is not

 

Good lord, does someone still think Trump is the dirty one here?

Here's a timeline of what's happened so far with sources.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/12/a-timeline-of-treason-how-fbi.html

 

Flailing arms, foot stamping wails, desperate deflection. It's all they have.

 

I think Trump is guilty of obstruction for sure, just not so sure it's about Russia Conclusion, may be money laundering

I think if he speaks under oath he will be caught for lying under oath as I do not think he can go 11 hours without lying personally

 

I stand corrected.