The Incredibly Failing President Obama

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  1. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Truer words have never been spoken. Congratulations. I can't
    agree more. Kudos! C'est magnifique!

    Wait a minute! This is why we have the current excuse, I
    say illusion, of a president. Good men and women did nothing.

    Thanks for making that point crystal clear. Hopefully others will
    have their eyes opened, too.
     
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    I suppose you think you have a "Gotcha moment",Mr Burke would be ashamed for you,
    However, all I have for you is-- " Heavy Sigh"
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Not at all. He would be proud of me. Nobody with a brain can believe
    for a moment that voting for the current president was a good thing.

    You and I both know it was a stupid act by those who are stupid.

    Need I include "heavy sigh" at this point. Not at all. You know that
    a heavy sigh is very relevant.

    Next.
     
  5. Prunepicker

    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    Ooops. I've already busted this silly post.

    Yawn...Oh my, look at the time... Hopefully I'll stop laughing and be able
    to go to sleep.
     
  6. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    The fact that you think Snowden is the bad guy is all I needed to hear. No one who actually cares about their freedom would say what you said about him.

    You are sucker for whoever is in power. You would trust authority even when it lies to you. You are the kind of person that not just lets tyrants gain power, but will vote them in.
     
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    So,the majority of the United States voters are "stupid" & the BAGGERS are such a minority you have to hi-jack the GOP,yet all 12 of you are the smart ones---STELLAR-----Next----
     
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    So,what part of my comment about Snowden is not true? He had other avenues in which to be a whistleblower,sorry he is a coward & a thief!
    There you go again with your self-righteous all knowing condescending by the book old GOP rhetoric-.
    So,it has been proven that the GOP has lied,stolen,brought our country to her knees,did not protect us from terrorists-& "you" vilify OBAMA & the rest of us Democrats because you "think" he lied because Izza's" gettin to proving it"!----- GOT IT!
     
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    Not what I said but if you want to believe it, I'm good with it.
    I'm not sure how you got that from my post. Maybe you didn't read
    it, which is quite evidence.

    Try again, after reading it?
     
  10. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Perry went to the border while Obama was posing for photo ops at a bbq joint.

    Guess who appears more presidential? Hint... it ain't Barack.
     
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    Quite often, America's enemies.
     
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    He has been a complete disappointment.
     
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    Prove Obama was directly involved in finding OBL, planned the operation to capture him and was there when he was captured. You claim HE got him, explain exactly what Obama specifically did to "get him".
     
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    Please quote where I said "HE got him", not that I'd have any reason to think you're making (*)(*)(*)(*) up about what I wrote again.

    But Obama kept the pressure on for the hunt for bin Laden, unlike the previous administration, which after a round of bragging that they'd get him dead or alive, decided he really wasn't that important. And when they found a good lead on where he was, Obama ordered the raid.
     
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    Let’s be honest about this. Bush had his chance to get Bin Laden in Tora Bora. He blew it. I give Obama credit for calling the shot when our troops had it. What I don’t get is how Obama supporters love to jump at giving Obama credit for when good things happen, but make excuses for him when bad happens rather than hold him accountable.
     
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    OH,It just gets under your craw that it took a "Democratic "POTUS' order to take out our public enemy #1 & it gets under your craw even more that it will be reflected that way in the History books---
    You "BLAME" OBAMA for all the woes in this country & you just can't bring yourself out of your hate for this man to give credit where credit is due!
    You are politically educated enough to know how "silly" your question to Ireman is!
     
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    Last I checked OBL was found because we waterboarded one of the club Gitmo members into giving up valuable info... Something Obama strongly campaigned against, yet now he wants all the credit and then some.
     
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    Okay,so let's talk about " make excuses for him when bad happens".
    Can you give a clue here to something "bad" that has happened for which us supporters are making excuses for which we should hold him "Accountable" for?
     
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    Let's believe that for the sake of argument, it still leaves club Gitmo and it's members... Most if not all of whom Obama would love to set free as he's already demonstrated with their top 5 hand picked ones.

    Didn't Obama campaign on closing club Gitmo?
     
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    @ Iriemon
    o Economy that was tanking at a -9% rate and shedding 700,000+ jobs a month turned around
    Where? Full time or part time? Do the people who have these so-called jobs better off than when Maobama took office?
    o 52 straight months of private sector employment growth.
    In the fast food service
    o 110% increase in the stock markets since taking office
    That bubble is manufactured
    o Halved the deficit in 4 years.
    Utilizing ACA and that’s in trouble today from unpaid subsidies
    o Got Osama bin Laden.
    If Waldo was in office, he’d get the credit..so what?
    o Saved 2-3 million jobs with stimulus package
    I’d like to see those links
    o First decrease in spending in a year in decades - 3 times.
    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*), they are spending more
    o Stock markets up 155% since bottom of the recession in 2009
    you already claimed that
    o Over 9.6 million additional private sector jobs created since Jan 2010
    nope.
    o Oil production increasing for the first time in decades.
    He has nothing to do with oil production. That is the il companies doing, if that’s true
    o Ousted Muamar Kadaffi at 1/1000 the cost of the Iraq war
    hahahahahaha..we had already bombed the hell out of him before Maobama got into office. He was ineffective against any actions against the US.
    o Deficit reduced by a then record $207 billion, down 16%, in 2012.
    Only because he refocused the ACA to appear to drive the deficit down. And it is still failing
    o Deficit reduced by a new record $420 billion, down 37%, in 2013
    More crap propaganda
    o Record corporate profits
    maybe for the insurance companies
    o Passed health care reform that will provide coverage to tens of millions of Americans
    Looks like you’ve been misled. Many of those had insurance before he came into office and lost it because of ACA
    o 4 straight years of GDP growth
    you already stated that. And it’s still a lie.
    o Unemployment rate dropped from 10% to 6.1%
    they are counting those who actually receive unemployment, not the ones who gave up looking for jobs. They are still unemployed
    o U.S. becomes world's top petroleum and energy producer
    Really? I gotta see a link to that because with fuel costs going up, it sure doesn’t seem like it.
    o Passed financial regulation reform to prevent another housing bubble fiasco.
    It’s still there.
    o Diplomatically coerced Syria to give up WMD without war or loss of single American life.
    Nope, they still have theirs
    o Recovered all jobs lost in the worst recession in 80 years
    now, that’s an outright lie
    o Lowest rate of spending increases of any president in modern history
    another misleading statement
    o On-budget deficit has decreased every full fiscal year he's been in office.
    Nope, another misrepresentation
    o US domestic oil use decreasing
    hahahahahahahaha you so fuuuuunay
    o Net creation of millions of people employed despite inheriting a economy losing 700,000+ jobs a month.
    Another Liberal myth

    If Obama were a white Republican, conservatives would be hailing him as a savior.
    If it were anybody else, you’d have a better job instead of demanding someone else pay for your healthcare.
    Today, we have half of America relying upon food stamps and welfare to pay for their food and drink. Trustee Offices are over-loaded. Detroit cannot pay its water bills.
    People who were depending on the subsidies for the ACA haven’t received their payments yet, costing them their plans.
    Let’s take a good look at the unemployment rate. Your figure does not take into account the number of people who cannot find a job, yet have found their way to the Free Stuff offered by government, putting more of a strain on the economic system.
    ACA is about to hit a wall because no subsidies have been paid to insurers, causing the poor (which was the intended to help those people) to lose their insurance for default.
    There is no way 80 million jobs have been retaken. If any have, it is often at half the pay.
    But here is what we do know. He thinks he is above the law and Congress. He has murdered Americans abroad without trial. He has dead-ended congress and released 5 of the meanest terrorists. He legislates from the oval office which is contrary to the CONUS. He has altered ACA on four different occasions which is illegal
    He spies upon Americans, just in case….
    He spends millions of dollars per vacation trip for his ugly wife and spoiled brats.
    He has interfered with state criminal cases.
    His corrupt wife was barred from practicing law in Illinois for corruption
    He is a racist of the worst kind.
    He is a communist with delusions of grandeur.
    Libs love him because they know he is a false prophet with promises of milk and honey, mainly mine.
    He has left our southern border unprotected allowing kids with diseases in and is now looking for homes to place all of them, some 50,000 to date.
    He has borrowed heavily from China.
    We have more government debt today than ever in the history of the US
    His whole administration is corrupt.
    Better off? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). We’d be better off without him.
    What the hell were his qualifications to even run for president, again?
     
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    GDP

    All kinds of things.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. The fact remains.

    Higher revenues and lower expenditures.
    Waldo wasn't in office.
    Posted earlier in this thread.

    CBO estimates that ARRA’s policies had the following effects in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2010:

    o Raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product (GDP) by between 1.1 percent and 3.5 percent,

    o Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.9 percentage points,

    o Increased the number of people employed by between 1.3 million and 3.5 million, and

    o Increased the number of full-time-equivalent jobs by 1.8 million to 5.0 million compared with what would have occurred otherwise, as shown in Table 1. (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers.

    http://www.cbo.gov/publication/22032

    Non-partisan analysis by IHS, Macroeconomic advisers, and Moody's also show job creations by the stimulus in the 2.1-2.5 million range.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/cea_5th_arra_report.pdf page 16.

    *CBO: Between 1.3 million and 3.6 million jobs saved or created.
    *IHS/Global Insight: 2.45 million jobs saved or created.
    *Macroeconomic Advisers: 2.3 million jobs saved or created.
    *Moody’s Economy.com: 2.5 million jobs saved or created.

    http://www.politifact.com/virginia/...or-says-stimulus-failed-get-people-back-work/

    Year - Outlays
    2009 3,517.7
    2010 3,457.1
    2011 3,603.1
    2012 3,537.1
    2013 3,454.6

    Source: http://cbo.gov/publication/45249

    I know Sean and Rush never tell you these things.
    The other was since Obama took office.

    Total Private sector jobs
    Jan 2010 107.225M
    May 2013 116.872M
    Increase: 9.647M
    Source: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. The fact remains.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. The fact remains.

    Revenues up and expenditures down. The fact remains.

    Total deficit
    2012 -1,087.0
    2013 -679.5

    Decrease: $407.5 billion -37%
    Source: http://cbo.gov/publication/45249

    Corporate Profits Are At An All-Time Record Peak And Expected To Grow in 2014
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertl...rket-today-than-at-the-peaks-in-2000-or-2007/

    A survey by the Commonwealth Fund found that 9.5 million fewer adults are uninsured now than at the beginning of the Obamacare enrollment season. The Urban Institute’s Health Reform Monitoring Survey found a similar drop, with 8 million adults gaining coverage. And Gallup-Healthways survey reported that the uninsured rate has fallen to 13.4 percent of adults, the lowest level since it began tracking health coverage in 2008.

    That was all on Thursday. In recent months, other surveys in the Gallup series have consistently found the same downward trend, and a RAND survey in April estimated that the law extended health coverage to 9.3 million Americans.


    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/07/obamacare-lowers-uninsured-108789.html#ixzz37Bbwjm5n

    Real GDP in $2009
    2009 14,417.9
    2010 14,779.4
    2011 15,052.4
    2012 15,470.7
    2013 15,761.3

    http://bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

    You're the one who has been lied to.

    You're wrong, but thanks for sharing your opinion. The fact remains.

    U.S. surges past Saudis to become world's top oil supplier -PIRA
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/15/us-oil-pira-idUSL1N0I51IX20131015

    Thanks for sharing your opinion. The fact remains.
    On September 14, 2013, the United States and Russia announced an agreement that would lead to the elimination of Syria's chemical weapon stockpiles by mid-2014.[1] In October 2013, the OPCW-UN Joint Mission destroyed all of Syria's declared chemical weapons manufacturing and mixing equipment
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

    Total nonfarm jobs, 138.392M in May 2014, surpassing the pre-recession record of 138.365M in Jan 2008.
    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cesbtab1.htm

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/
    Year - On budget deficit
    2009 -1,549.7
    2010 -1,371.4
    2011 -1,366.8
    2012 -1,148.9
    2013 -719.0

    Source: http://cbo.gov/publication/45249

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    Total employment:
    Jan 2009 142.152M
    June 2014 146,221M
    Net increase in people employed: 4.069 M
    http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab1.htm

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    Thank you so much for your post. It has been very helpful.

    Many conservatives here, like you, have asserted that all the facts on my list are false, or challenged the facts as false because they had never seen or heard of them before. Your post is illuminating to demonstrate just how ignorant of facts, misinformed, uninformed and deceived about the truth many conservatives are, which may help explain why they hold the beliefs they do.

    I can only chalk it up to the RW propaganda media. Propaganda is powerful stuff, and it works. We see it here in posts like yours every day.
     
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    Best post ever:clapping:
     

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