The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden... Is Screwed

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    He has the GI Bill which will pay for his schooling and living expenses for four years. What else does he need?
     
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    Mainly, he is complaining about the lack of healthcare coverage during the transition period from being the Navy SEAL to civilian life, which could have been available if he had agreed to become a reservist. But he is getting some degree of media attention by selling this story to the magazine and that's what he is doing to feed his family.

     
  3. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Well, this is nothing new. The government healthcare system in the military has always had problems.
     
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    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, he should serve you fries to pay for his family and education while he learns to do something else.

    I don't understand people.
     
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    Interesting to me, would be information about who received the 27 million dollar bounty for Bin Laden.

    25 million/U.S. Government + 2 million/Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.
     
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    Well then his problems are solved and he can quit whining. And he clearly did not remain silent. Unless you consider Esquire to be "silent".
     
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    So he made his own choice, knowing the benefits and downsides, but is complaining anyway?
     
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    The only one whining here is you, and because a hero has the audacity to bring back to the light the deplorable healthcare setup we have for our bravest warriors.

    He was silent for 9 months. The other guy wrote a book and had a movie made.

    You have no idea why he chose not to indenture himself for 20 years and get out now. You have no idea what he has been through. Again, I say, he has done enough for his country.
     
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    Huh? He didn't know all that before?

    Good for both of them.

    What does that have to do with anything I posted?
     
  10. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He wasn't a national hero before who could shed light on the situation to the American people, who could demand change. And the government sells the package with the health benefits... they do not spell out how terrible the VA is.

    Refreshing to see people can, in this day and age, almost come out and admit they were wrong.

    You accused him of "whining" for making decisions he knew would result in this. I am suggesting that there may have just been pressures you are not factoring in, in your blaze smear of this national hero, that made continuing his service untenable. That I have to explain this to you does not bode well for a debate with you if I have to make replies, and then tell you what they mean. Time-vampire kinda posts.
     
  11. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Veterans on the GI Bill get a monthly living stipend that is indexed to the local cost of living. In Chicago, mine was around $1,700 a month. Meanwhile, his tuition is paid in full. You don't think that's adequate?

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    What did he complain about, exactly? I mean, aside from the normal complaints about the military's crappy healthcare system, what is he complaining about?
     
  12. Ctrl

    Ctrl Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He would certainly still need a job to provide for his family. He doesn't have to work as hard as you. He has already worked harder... being the seal that deadbanged UBL is all the job he ever had to do in my world.

    No... it is not adequate. A civilian would have been paid 27 million. Start there.
     
  13. Iolo

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    Make serious peace with the Country you know he's in, and bring him to trial. Meanwhile, though, find out what is fuelling 'terrorism' and see whether you can't stop that, as happened (at long,long last) in Northern Ireland.
     
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    Translation

    "Do what the terrorists tell you, and there won't be terrorism."
     
  15. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So anyone the US government decides is an enemy can just be murdered, and we are to be glad you don't murder all those you live around him (not that you don't, of course - usually you do).
     
  16. Ethereal

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    Yea, that's life.

    He did his job. Nothing more, nothing less. He does not deserve special treatment for doing his job.

    That's because a civilian, unlike a SEAL, has no professional or legal obligation to capture or kill terrorists.
     
  17. Iolo

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    Well, you paid for the Provisionals to murder our people, just as you pay for the nazis in Palestine to murder native children in large numbers. If you stopped paying for murder it would be a start. Why don't you also stop beating your hollow chest and start looking at what you are doing, lad? It is pretty gruesome.
     
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    So... like I said... do what the terrorists want. Break ties with Israel, and leave the middle east. Don't look back while we murder everyone in a sovereign state. That's the best case scenario. But what WE do is gruesome...
     
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    Childish drama. Negotiate like normal people. 'Terrorists' are only people you've bullied and denied a voice for so long they see no other answer but to kill any of you they can get at - think how that feels and stop your silly posturing! The zionists are simply the racist residue of nazism that you support out of guilt for your past racism, aren't they? Jews they are not - the original zionist, like their nazi brothers, hated traditional Jewry and wanted to replace it with another racist Volk. The originals of Likud wore brown shirts, used the nazi salute, had their centre in a 'Brown House' based on the Hitler one in Munich and, as soon as they got the chance, murdered the British troops who'd fought Hitler - their only real dislike of him was that he insisted on killing their potential cannon-fodder. Yes - you murder incredible numbers for oil, and call your colonialism a 'crusade'. Yes - unbelievably gruesome, since you ask.
     
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    Depends on how much money they have and how dark their skin is.
     
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    Does your country never go to war ?
     
  22. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WAR is declared, and happens between sovereign states. Anyone here who murders someone outside that must be brought to trial, and will be, I hope.
     
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    Didn't the British go to Iraq and don't they have troops in afghan ??
     
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    I'd like to point out some discrepancies in the Esquire article. First, is that OEF/OIF combat Veterans can receive cost free medical care for any condition related to their service in the Iraq/Afghanistan theater for five years after the date of their discharge or release...there are other benefits, including education opportunities available to all returning service members (OEF/OIF/OND).

    http://www.oefoif.va.gov/

    No servicemember who does less than 20 years gets a pension, unless he or she has to medically retire.

    I'm in 100% agreement with Ethereal on this, he deserves no special treatment as a former member of a Spec Ops unit, and/or gallantry exhibited in combat.

    Carry on with the side argument regarding the legalities of killing OBL, I wanted to at least address the specific intent of the thread, prior to the thread devolving into
    an unresolved argument.
     
  25. Ethereal

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    I think the journalist is taking some poetic liberties with the SEAL's situation. The title alone is hyperbolic and not representative of how the SEAL actually feels. I think he is just voicing the standard complaints about the bureaucratic insanity of the VA, which is a legit, but not terribly novel, complaint.
     

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