The most common argument I've heard against gay marriage...

I am saying with a straight face that is your specific and only intent. You are the one bringing up outside issues in order to argue against gay marriage with very illogical rationalizations intended specifically to exclude homosexuals, even if they parent in the exact same way as do many heterosexual couples.

As pointed out by Justice Kennedy there are over 50,000 children of gay couples in California- why don't you want to foster stable homes for them?

If you argument is about fostering stable homes- why do you want them for children of heterosexual parents, but not for those of homosexual parents?

 

I for one can't keep a straight face whenever I read something of yours

 

"Over 10% of the population is gay"
"Unemployment is down to 7%"

Numbers aren't that easy for the left.

 

nope. no prohibition or limitation existed in the US until the 1970s

of course they are, as the courts routinely agree.

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outdated and overturned. and it's still hilarious you cite them

 

Nothing fictional about it. OkCupid is a real dating service, with real users having real experiences that generate real data.

 

"Of gay couples"????? Most of them are children from previous heterosexual relationships. And like I said there are even more children living with two closely related adults. Thats why I dont favor such preferences for gay couples.

Heterosexual sex has a strong, natural tendency to lead to procreation. Gay sex has no such tendency. Government has just as much interest in forming stable homes for two platonic friends as they do two gay people. Government shouldnt use purposeful discrimination to help gays feel better about their homosexuality.

 

And that is exactly what they do. Nothing at all prohibits two platonic friends from marrying each other and forming a stable home.

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So you favor discrimination against gay couples.

 

All states presume a sexual relationship. A few states still require consummation, otherwise the relationship can be annulled, as if it had never existed. The federal government still declares marriage to be a sham in the context of immigration when a marriage has not been consummated. Discrimination law applies to all aspects of marriage, not just the entrance requirements.

No, two heterosexual guys are excluded from marriage just as two homosexual guys would be excluded. Its discrimination in favor of heterosexual couples, not in favor of ANY OTHER type of couple.

 

no state presumes any such thing. you don't even need to be able to have sex in order to marry, in any state.

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no state requires consummation.

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no they don't.

it's an unconstitutional discrimination, as the courts routinely agree.

 

WRONG!! Any two people of the same sex can marry in states where SSM is legal. No one asks if they are gay

 

Please name those states

 

Only a dozen? You lucky, lucky man.....

 

. Nothing at all prohibits two platonic friends from marrying each other and forming a stable home..

You are correct- I mispoke- you favor discrimination against same gender couples, which are usually gay couples.

 

very good progressive ---- well put !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I hope that you saw the rest. That was only the addendum......... Maybe you could add more.

 

Actually Micketto , that 10% figure comes from a refuted 1948 study by am early Gay propagandist Alfred Kinsey , It has long since been abandoned, a more scientifically accepted figure is somewhere between 3 and 6%.

2011 - Gallup poll shows that U.S. adults estimate that 25% of Americans are gay or lesbian.
52% of American Adults estimate that at least one in five Americans are gay or lesbian
35% estimate that more than one in four are.
Few put the figure at less than 15%.

Why in Gods name would so many allegedly educated {or indoctrinated as the case may be} and supposedly informed American Adults believe that so very many of their countrymen are homosexuals ? .... drum roll ..... the answer is ....Gross over representation and coverage by the Media, both in Entertainment Fiction {Soaps, Sitcoms, Movies..} as well as News coverage. not to mention unprecedented Gay Subtext.

Almost any show currently airing on television features at least one homosexual. Daytime talk shows, Soaps, and comedies are rampant with out of closet card carrying homosexual characters. In addition, all these characters are not permitted to display character flaws, they are either wealthy, educated, and happy OR depressed and oppressed by perceived mistreatment from normal people.

http://loonybird.com/gay_media.htm

 

Perhaps a tad later , I'm running late for an appointment at a Tea Party Rally

 

Curiously, that's about the same rate seen anywhere where the figure is measured, in countries that are very gay-friendly to countries that are less so.

 

Australia 2003 97.4% normal, 1.6% gay 0.9%bisexual.

Canada 1988 A study of 5,514 college and university students under the age of 25 found 1% who were homosexual and 1% who were bisexual

Denmark 1992 A random survey found that 2.7% of the 1,373 men who responded to their questionnaire had homosexual experience (intercourse)

France 1992- ... 4.1% of the men had at least one occurrence of intercourse with person of the same sex

Ireland - 2006 - 2.7% of men self-identified as homosexual

New Zealand 2007 - 0.9% of those surveyed reported exclusive attraction to the same sex, 3.3% to both sexes and 1.8% to neither

Norway 1988 - 3.5% of the men reported ... a homosexual experience

United Kingdom 1992 - 6.1% have had a "homosexual experience"

Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are
Surveys show a shockingly high fraction think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

{Me}

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Australia 2003 97.4% normal, 1.6% gay 0.9%bisexual.

Canada 1988 A study of 5,514 college and university students under the age of 25 found 1% who were homosexual and 1% who were bisexual

Denmark 1992 A random survey found that 2.7% of the 1,373 men who responded to their questionnaire had homosexual experience (intercourse)

France 1992- ... 4.1% of the men had at least one occurrence of intercourse with person of the same sex

Ireland - 2006 - 2.7% of men self-identified as homosexual

New Zealand 2007 - 0.9% of those surveyed reported exclusive attraction to the same sex, 3.3% to both sexes and 1.8% to neither

Norway 1988 - 3.5% of the men reported ... a homosexual experience

United Kingdom 1992 - 6.1% have had a "homosexual experience"

Americans Have No Idea How Few Gay People There Are
Surveys show a shockingly high fraction think a quarter of the country is gay or lesbian, when the reality is that it's probably less than 2 percent.

{Me}

 

Discrimination law applies to all aspects of marriage, not just the entrance requirements.

Probably 10 times as many homes made up of two adults both related and unrelated in a non sexual relationship than there are homes made up of two homosexuals. The extra eagerness of homosexuals to ape the nuclear family doesnt change this fact.

 

This has nothing to do with his post. Nothing prohibits two,platonic friends from marrying each other and forming a stable home

Also nothing to do with what he said.

 

Discrimination law applies to all aspects of marriage, not just the entrance requirements.

 

This has nothing to do with his or my post. Nothing prohibits two platonic friends from marrying each other or remaining married and forming a stable home.

 

Actually it directly addresses it. You simply cannot comprehend.

 

Actually, it has nothing to do with it. Nothing at all prevents two platonic friends from getting or staying married and forming a stable home.

Your post in no way addresses this.