The NRA playbook - how to sell a massacre

The number is greater than 1% for armed citizens stopping a mass shooting, the FBI just published figures on that, but you can query for that yourself. Considering that a mass shooting is 4 or more victims, taking a page from the left’s favorite tactic of projecting what could be, it is conceivable that every intervention of a citizen to take down a criminal in the commission of a crime where there are multiple nearby bystanders, is preventing a mass shooting.
While there has been more than one time citizens have intervened alongside the LE, a recent example was the Sutherland Springs shootings, stopped by a fellow in pursuit with an AR15. But funny, considering the heroism he displayed, the MS media gave him little press and fewer know his name than the shooter...doesn’t fit their narrative. But the most famous was the Austin Texas incident, finally depicted in the Documentary a couple years ago called, the Dark Tower, available on Netflix and You Tube. It was a time when many in Texas kept guns in racks in the back of their pickup trucks.

 

Hate to break the news and facts to you, but the statement "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun," is quite true and well backed up with factual information.

 

For the simple reason that those who have been elected to public office will not allow for such an option. Nor will they even allow for the consideration of such an option being a possibility.

It can indeed be done. But first a question in turn. Will the answer be considered with an open mind, or will it be written off and dismissed from the position of decades of ingrained learning that allows for only a limited mindset and outlook to be considered?

Was such the case prior to the firearm-related restrictions implemented in the wake of the Port Arthur incident?

The nation of Australia rarely had mass shootings to begin with, and they were decreasing in regularity on their own even before the firearm-related restrictions implemented in the wake of the Port Arthur incident.

 

I apologize. I didn't think that you may not recognize the image. "The FP-45 Liberator is a pistol manufactured by the United States military during World War II for use by resistance forces in occupied territories." That is only one of many examples of why one may "need" a firearm.

As far as my "feeling the need" for a firearm, I was about 10 and my mother and I heard people fighting in front of our home. 2 gangs were fighting as we sat in the dark hoping they would not push their way in. They were right outside our window. Luckily, they did not need any hostages and things settled down after about 20 minutes or so. The whole time, I was on the phone calling the police, who never answered.

 

Which the USSC ruled they don't have to answer or respond to your call for help.

 

I came to America because of it’s Constitution and it’s protected civil rights; something I didn’t have in the North of Ireland where civil rights, including jobs and housing, were privileges you had if you were the right class and religion. I went through a period there where the UK security forces could kickin and search any home, arrest someone and intern them without due process, torture even teen age children, arm one segment of the population against another, stand by and allow rioters to burn homes of those considered second or third class citizens and paricipate in the assisination of their own citizens.
Do I need a gun, no, but it is my right and I am armed. Guns provided me the means to get a college education by subsistence hunting along with money I made from hunting. More than once I survived situations (two and 4 legged) because I had a gun...
You have no real understanding of the US, it’s culture, motivations of it’s mainstream media or it’s politics any more than many Americans have of the AU. So trying take the high more ground as you tend to do, is done without a basis of knowledge to do so. As for what I would do visiting the AU or NZ, I would observe the law...that doesn’t mean I would be entirely unarmed.
BTW, guns can be found anywhere, some time back, I asked you what you would do first if you observed a child holding a gun. How would you handle that unlikely, but possible situation in AU? You never answered. A child’s, or someone else’s life might depend on you knowing what to do.

 

I usually like to use the word person... so many more women these days (my girls as an example) are trained and armed and in fact have saved lives.

 

You haven’t verified your earier claim

Please give me citations

 

No it is not and even the fbi acknowledge that more mass shootings are stooped by unarmed civilians than armed civilians
https://abcnews.go.com/US/breaking-nra-backed-theory-good-guy-gun-stops/story?id=53360480

 

Which claim?

 

I apologise the number IS greater than 1%

It is actually 1.6%!!

 

All of it

 

If the problem of mass shootings is culture rather than gun ownership then what is the essential difference that makes America so inclined to gave weekly events?

 

Okay

Post the research

 

I'm alive today because I had one and knew how to use it. My right of self-defense is intrinsic to my right to life.

 

Then why are guns not needed on a daily basis here?

 

Wow!! sound of footsteps running into the distance

 

Be specific.

 

Want to take another guess?

 

Common sense. How else are active shooter events stopped?

 

Citation required

I will let you off of this bit because it is just blather

And this is just ONE incident among how many? And what is the price you are paying for that one “successful” incident

 

Want to prove any other statistic?

Mind you I confess fact checking myself to find it was 1.6% and now I cannot find that reference but I am pretty confident you will not find anything from a reputable source that shows it to be higher

 

From the FBI

Does not say if the 8 citizens who stopped the shooters were armed


https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-us-2016-2017

However if you look at page six of the report you will see a breakdown and unarmed civilians far outweighed the armed civilians. Interestingly one shooter who was confronted by an armed civilian escaped to continue shooting at another site

 

Okay. I am an Aussie. Now that is said......I reckon (from where I sit) that more people are killed with guns in the USA by Coppers or maniacs massacring than by these criminals going about their usual criminal business. I certainly hear more about those Coppers and ******** murderous bastards than I do about your petty armed crims doing whatever they do.

 

Hmm...you might be right, but you provided no citation/link/reference. I have checked. I have seen stuff about 'avoidable' deaths but nothing on 'malpractice.' Malpractice would invite regulatory authorities to press charges, and there certainly is not 18,000 prosections here each year based on that.