The NRA playbook - how to sell a massacre

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    First time wasn’t in the US, but Belfast Aug 12-15,:1969... it’s in Wikipedia. Lost my home as did many others. One of the reasons I ended up in the US.
     
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    During the 'Troubles.' Hardly relevant to a domestic situation in the USA.

    So.....since you have been in the USA, how many times have you used a firearm against a human?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You know nothing of the troubles...certainly not the late 60’s and early 70’s where I lived on a street that was a connector between the Divis into the Falls Rd and the Shankill (home of the UDA, UVF, UFF, and RHC) ... the epicenter, Aug 12-15 ‘69 of ‘the Troubles’ and the resulting birth of the PIRA.

    As for the US, I have defended myself, but, fortunately never had to shoot anyone.

    I did work in Guatemala during the time of the Disaperios and their Civil war...a different story there.

    NI and Guatemal... places a government turned against it’s citizens...something that can happen anywhere.
     
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    That's all I am interested in. I take it that never once in the USA have you used a firearm against a felon?
     
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    More accurately it is a matter of one not viewing a life or death situation as something glorious worth eagerly recounting to anyone who will listen.
     
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    Several times over the course of my law enforcement career. More than once as a private citizen.
     
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    "Interpretation".... You are determined to assume that self-defense never happens.

    Reality: Casual discussion of life and death conflict is not something those who have survived it do. It is a traumatic and difficult experience to go through; not something we seek to put forth to be dissected by those who will seek to denigrate and insult us for our actions at every opportunity.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    I love when I see speculative interpretations or in this case a cloaked challenge attempt to extract more information.
    Why the curiosity? Are you hoping for some reveal you can attemp to weaponized? If you have a point you want to make, just be straight, and make it.
    BTW, there are a few posting here that have successfully defended themselves and they are recognized by those with shared experience by subtle clues in their comments, and the logic of their posts as much as by what is not said.
     
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    Or as is far more likely, blowhards refusing to discuss facts as they would just get in the way. Like how much greater my sporting deeds become the older I get.
     
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    No at all but I strongly suspect that you are, to be polite, exaggerating.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You can suspect that of me; I don’t mind. I don’t speak for others.
     
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    Believe whatever is ultimately desired on the part of yourself. It ultimately makes no meaningful difference, as whatever may or may not be believed on the part of yourself will never be able to alter what is reality.
     
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    Just because you are happy being full of it, does not equate to we are.

    Good job at projecting though.
     
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    Would you expect anything less from a governmentally disarmed victim in wait?

    A person who would like to force that disability upon us just to make his world feel better.
     
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    Well for what it is worth, based on your past posts, I doubt you are exaggerating, if nothing else you are actually holding back on putting it all out there.

    Those who have actually been there, tend not to brag about all of what they have seen, or been through, it's the phonies who tend to lean on their so called "war" history, in a usually failed attempt, to gain on-line credibility.
     
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    Heads up Pilgrim, I was not me boasting about how I use my handguns.

    Get a new script writer. That one has become a repetitive hack and it makes no better sense just because you keep using a dumb line when you have nothing else to toss about the place.
     
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    Once again you are fibbing, It was you calling yourself a person who puff's up facts, not I.

    "Like how much greater my sporting deeds become the older I get.'

    Great advice, I would strongly recommend you do such.
     
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    Question, by your screen name you are claiming to be a lawyer, lawyers never work for free unless they are forced to by the bar to go Pro Bono.

    That stated, who is paying your fee's to be a professional paid for troll?
     
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    Thanks. I’m Irish, we do like a good story, but most I know aren’t give to deception because of not giving enough of a damn.
    On line I suppose you can be whoever you want to be; sustaining that is another matter. Little clues accumulate over time and become revealing. I generally give people the benefit of the doubt and those given to deception reveal it themselves.
    I literally have no problem in people speculating about me, I’m too old to give a damn.
    While it’s always possible to be wrong, I figure I have a sense of who is being honest, misled, playing games, etc. over time and getting to know people through their posts. Those that have experience, as I have previously suggested, exhibit that experience by the little clues in what they say and, as importantly, what they don’t say, not just in the posts they make that are specific to any discussion of particular experiences, but throughout all their posts.
    Relative to the discussion of gun rights, most that support gun rights, rights in general, and the principles of the Constitution have a similar, consistentency of pattern of speaking from deep principle, something you’d recognize of yourself, that isn’t as prevalent as those seeking any means to subvert those principles.
    The Irish have a very old saying that I have heard all my life, “Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile”,
    Which means, ‘One beetle recognizes another’.
     
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    Yes they are, look at Chicago or Detroit.
     
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    NRA hate is based on ignorance of the NRA and media driven politics.
     
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    Well, when one has a country being overrun by Muslims the lack of being to defend oneself is something the oppressed will wish on those who can defend themselves, it's jealousy of a freedom we have, versus a privilege they one had.
     
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    And yet the ONLY outcome of the “disarmament” of the Australian and UK disarmament of the population has been a fall in mass shootings and shootings over all

    NO totalitarian government
    No rise in crime
    No real loss of “liberty”
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Total BS you never had any liberty to lose and now you wish to push that on us.
     
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