The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

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  1. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

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    Then you should be in FAVOR of Trump's FAIR TRADE agenda and limiting immigration that have kept wages down for DECADES! Not to mention putting 95 MILLION people back to work that are no longer counted as employed or unemployed.

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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ral-rebellion-over-trump-trade-agenda-n866456

    If your BLOTUS can't sell his load of bovine excrement to his own party why should anyone else buy it?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    I gather that you are completely unaware of the exploitation of hardworking Americans by corporations doing the bidding of the Wall Street Casino Bosses by laying off people earning living wages and replacing them with those that aren't.
     
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    Yep. With so many people leaving the Democrat plantation, escaping economic bondage, Democrats need a good recession that only a massive minimum wage increase can cause.

    If you REALLY want to crash the economy, perhaps you can tie it together with a program you might call 'Affordable Housing' like then HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo spiked in 1999. If you have Fannie & Freddie commit to buy loans extended to people who will never be able to afford the 5 Year ARMs after they reset, you will have accomplished a couple of things.

    First, the banks who would otherwise never loan money to the people you want back in your ghetto will have them pre-sold. A beautiful thing.

    Second, securities that contain those doomed loans are naturally A-rated since they are backed by the good faith and credit of Uncle Sam. You can sell those puppies around the world and create more poverty, envy and polarization that even Democrats ever thought was possible.

    Hurry, so you can blame it all on a Republican President. Remember though, if you want to get Trump to sign up for your planned disaster, you need to have hostages. Learn from experience. Bush wouldn't go for the standalone minimum wage increase in January 2007. Pelosi had to hold Veterans and Katrina victims hostage in May to get his signature.
     
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    That's because of belief in the lying liberal media INSTEAD of what's going on in the REAL WORLD! By the media's OWN POLLING they are now at the lowest levels of TRUST by the PEOPLE, in HISTORY!

    Chinese leadership is facing a rare backlash for its handling of the US trade dispute

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/09/han...causes-rift-in-chinese-leadership-source.html

    That game was OVER the day it began.

    Steve
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Altering quotes is a PF Rule violation! :eek:

    This thread is NOT about a minimum wage increase. It is about repudiating the Republican/Libertarian fiscal malfeasance of the last 3+ decades and returning to the SANITY of paying living wages to middle class hardworking Americans.

    In future please remain on topic.
     
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    So FACTS that clearly DEMONSTRATE that not even hardworking Republicans are willing to buy into your BLOTUS's delusional trade war are nothing more than the "lying liberal media"?

    Got to wonder why your BLOTUS can't even scrape together enough sycophants to win a congressional seat in a red state like Ohio?

    Perhaps it is because it is your BLOTUS who is doing all the LYING and even Republicans have figured that out by now.
     
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    Probably not the time for dems to cry about wages since in many states employers cannot find enough workers to fill the waiting jobs. The result wages are naturally rising. All working Americans have the right to earn living wages. They just have to have the desire to do so by performing at a standard above the job requirements.
     
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    Below, see above.


     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Facts prove that wages are DECLINING for hardworking Americans.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    In other words you cannot refute that there has been an ongoing denial of the right to earn a living wage as a result of the Republican/Libertarian fiscal malfeasance?

    Got it!
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not know that. Would you help me by providing more information?
     
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    Provide proof that the reason for average wages decreasing is because of some sinister right wing conspiracy and not because a booming economy has attracted teens and minorities in the workforce at entry level wages.
     
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    Who puts the money into working middle-class paychecks? I agree with you totally and you understand my concern.
     
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    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...s-wages-have-declined-over-the-past-year.html

     
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    WRONG! I showed you the lies, and the proof that the PEOPLE don't believe the lies -- FROM THE MEDIA!

    Steve
     
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    Yes, we are on the same page here and I do understand your concern.

    Employers are the ones providing the paychecks and to be brutally frank they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

    What it boils down to is that publicly traded corporations do have an obligation when it comes to providing profits to shareholders. However what has CHANGED is that the EXPECTATIONS of profits by the greed driven Wall Street Casino Bosses has taken over what used to be sound and prudent corporate management practices. Once upon a time only workers who were not producing could expect to be laid off while those who worked hard were REWARDED with pay raises and bonuses. The Wall Street Casino Bosses trashed that by setting up a system whereby they FORCED corporations to CONSTANTLY demonstrate ever improving earnings otherwise they would PUNISH the stock price by DOWNGRADING it. That meant that if there was any possibility of not meeting these insane extortionary DEMANDS for ever higher profits there was no other option than to conduct wholesale layoffs across the entire spectrum of the workforce for no better reason than to satisfy the greed and avarice of the Wall Street Casino Bosses.

    Hardworking Americans found themselves with mortgages, car loans, college loans and medical bills were FORCED to find another job and so they took whatever they could get even if it was for less than they were earning before being laid off.

    The transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy 1% elite has even stripmined the integrity of corporate management.
     
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    Not surprised you would invoke a radical left wing rag, but even they admit Obama did nothing for the downtrodden. That companies have invested in more capital than American workers says more about Al Gore's invention, the globalization it enabled, the illegal invasion Democrats support, our corporate tax structure, and WTO rules that disadvantage us.
     
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    Complete and utter load of bovine excrement!

    You posted a link about confidence in the Chinese government that had NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the USA media.

    Try reading your own vapid posts before you throw another hissyfit!
     
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    So what is going on here is inflation which is the sign of a strong economy is over taking wage growth. Do you not feel longer term that increased production in the manufacturing segment will cause business to hire more workers and those workers will have to be recruited from some lower paying job?
    Your colorful bold type is a contradiction in terms. President Trump has reduced the unemployment rate to historic lows. This means more jobs. As those jobs fill the employer will have to pay more to attract new workers. The catch is, inflation that comes with a strong economy. Democrats want everybody to have a Union job with all it's associated benefits, then they complain that a tee shirt made in the USA costs $35. You can't have it both ways.
     
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    Anyone have an alt right gibberish translator handy? :eek:
     
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    MORE BS!

    The dems have been losing elections SINCE 2010! NET LOSSES! They believe every lying word of the media, The PEOPLE do NOT by their OWN POLLING. Get OVER IT!

    I actually encourage you to continue your BS in support of dems after wage stagnation for YEARS.

    Steve
     
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    Inflation is happening because your BLOTUS has ruined the USA's credit rating and trustworthiness so no foreign nations are willing to lend us any more money. That means that the Federal Reserve is PRINTING the money that it is lending your BLOTUS and that is driving up inflation.
     
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    In other words, you have no proof. Just another case of Progressives knowing so much that isn't so.
     
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    The bovine excrement is entirely on your side of the fence because all you had to do was provide a post proving me wrong. You could NOT do that because I was RIGHT!

    So now you go wandering off into your lalaland safe space about elections again thereby CONCEDING your position.

    Have a nice day!
     
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