The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans.

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  1. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Thank you (?) government.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I am not complaining about the cost of living? How much does an suv cost today?
     
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    Wrong?

    So to whom does ownership transfer when a business goes bankrupt?
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    No, of course they don't want to put people out of work. They simply do not understand that money doesn't grow on trees.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They actually believe it does.
     
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    It must since the govt. runs up debt so fast...
     
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    Again, that's making it someone else's problem. We can't bleat about climate change, yet not change our own behaviour. Doing so is even more of a problem when you consider that these 'large corporations' only exist because we want them to. If we stopped buying, they'd stop making. But we don't, do we? We just expect to keep getting our toys and luxuries, and have them clean up the mess WE created via our demands. It's pathetic.
     
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    You are complaining? If so, why in hell are you spending $30k on a damned car? That doesn't process .. at all.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong!

    It just means that those 1.3 million people who were FORCED to work TWO or more jobs will now only have to work ONE JOB instead of two.

    That is a GOOD thing for those people because now they can spend more quality time with their families instead of working themselves to death.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Probably because you have NOT done the math.

    A new vehicle purchased for $30k and paid off over 5 years then provides at LEAST 5 more years of payment free motoring but that could easily be extended to 15 or 20 years. Even after that period it will still have some residual value. Assuming that it is only owned for 10 years and has a residual value of $10k then the cost of ownership averages just $2k per year.

    Compare that to buying a 5 year old 2nd hand vehicle for $15k that MIGHT last another 5 years but it will probably incur all kinds of additional repair costs given that it was unlikely to have been well looked after and maintained. The total cost is now $20k for just 5 years of ownership which works out at $4k per year.

    Buying a new vehicle can be cheaper than 2nd hand if you maintain it and keep it for at least 10 years. If you keep it for longer than that then it can be under $2k per year.
     
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    $30,000 is par for an suv today. What do you drive?
     
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    You are off the wall on this one.
     
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    I believe that I said that, yes?
     
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    "The Progressive Agenda means the Right to Earn a Living Wage for All Americans."

    many on the right do not want that
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Which is unfortunate because not earning living wages is detrimental to ALL of America.
     
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    It doesn't transfer. It goes out of business and closes its doors.
    Creditors do not want to operate a bankrupt business because they could lose all of their money in the process. At least they sometimes get something back as the assets are sold and distributed.
     
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    Pinheads in government are not qualified to micro manage the private economy

    The reason wages are low is because of too many low skill immigrants and illegal aliens flooding the job market
     
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    When was the last time you bought a car? Prices are through the roof.
     
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    Nah. false. Nothing to do with immigrants. Has to do with the lack of skill. An employer can't pay a person without skills a living wage of
    +or- $40,000 to start. A learning wage should be much lower than a living wage.
     
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    Its really just supply and demand

    It does not take skill to dig a whole in the ground

    Any mexican who sneaks across the border can do it

    And he will work cheap because there are too many mexicans and too few holes to dig
     
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    Don't forget to thank the Federal Reserve and creatures of Jekyll Island a century ago.
     
  22. Longshot

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    The creditors become the owners. That's a fact of bankruptcy.

    Perhaps they choose to sell what they have come to own. That's an owner's prerogative.
     
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    That's was included in my previous statement. Thank you, government.
     
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    That was the communist agenda too, it was literally the same thing, it was part of the communist manifesto. How has it worked out so far? Ask the soviets, the Cubans, the Vietnamese, the Eastern Europeans, the Venezuelans if you don't know the answer.

    That being said, open borders, reparations, free healthcare for illegals, free education for illegals, subsidized housing for illegals, 70% tax rates, extermination of capitalism, cars, planes and cows, globalist climate hoax, subservience to the UN and one sided Paris accord, rampant outsourcing..... This is the real progressive agenda circa 2016-2020
     
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    Might you be able to explain what the conservative agenda is, just for comparison?
     
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