The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.
    Nothing wrong with scrutiny. It can show the innocent as well as the guilty.
     
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    That is, the deliberately lay restrictions on the rights of the law abiding for the purpose of making it harder for them to exercise their rights.
    Why do you think it is OK for a state to make it hard for the law-abiding to exercise their tights?
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Report the event, the names of the victims, but absolutely no details pertaining to the perpetrator. Do not recognize their existence, do not mention their name, do not show their photograph, do not cover the personal details of their lives growing up. Do not give them fame and infamy that will inspire and motivate others to do the same.
     
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    again with the ad hominem. i’m sorry you can’t come up with an argument all by yourself.

    and what evidence do you have for your ridiculous claim? oh, none. right.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That's almost a good idea, and I have to wonder if they aren't doing that already to some extent. Frex, it's not that easy to find out info on the Vegas killer, though I've not really started looking yet.

    OTOH what if somebody could notice something, and maybe head one of these nuts off? Though I myself have noted no warning signs that a person might do something like this..
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Members of the hard right support guns out of control vs most Americans:

     
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    I'm good with both! How would you handle the mentally ill folk who want to buy guns?
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    A few non mainsteam media outlets have a policy against even mentioning the name of the perp in instances like that. I know the Daily Wire has that policy.

    MSM won't take that up because MSM are business's and they care more about getting the best story than they do about morality.

    Also, it's sort of difficult to tell that somebody is "off" by just glancing at them. However, most of these mass shooters have had documented mental issues and were known to be crazy by those around them. In the case of the Parkland shooter even his own classmates notified the faculty that the kid was a nutcase and even the local law enforcement agency knew that kid was a nutcase yet nobody did anything about it.

    Thats a slippery slope though. We have to be very careful when talking about restricting the rights of people based on mental issues. Florida is currently playing around with this law that allows the cops to confiscate your weapons if somebody thinks you're crazy. It's quite controversial because there is no actual medical definition of "crazy" and the medical definition of "mentally ill" encompasses everything from being sad that your goldfish died to full blown psychopath.
     
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    Obviously your assumptions here are out of touch with reality and solely based in partisan politics. This is too bad since it's a great topic for open-minded discussion.

    When you start with 'zealots' and 'ban gun ownership' and 'city-wide bans' and 'failed gun control policies' and 'desire for total control of society' and 'want to be in charge of everyone and everything' and 'strategy to disarm and disable political opponents'...it's all just partisan political BS!

    For 99.9% of average Americans guns of any type are unnecessary! If you waved your magic wand and removed all of these guns from the 99.9% there would be NO critical impact to their lives. For those who can comprehend this reality, how can it be so horrific when anyone in government talks about gun control?
     
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    None. Sadly crazy people can be quite inventive, you take away one avenue they will find another.
     
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    Except the number of homicides would drop to levels similar to Europe/ Canada/ Australia.
     
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    It is interesting, start taking about a progun person being out f touch with nreality and then produces a whole bunch of numbers none of which have anything at all to do with reality and do little other than reveal their own prejudices.
     
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    Wrong. Those countries after outlawing guns experienced a less than 1% drop in homicides, in exchange for a ten to fifteen percent increase in other crimes. There is nothing at all to suggest that the American experience would be any different.
     
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    You are correct.

    And I was just thinking if the 99.9% I mentioned were all allowed to have bow and arrows, they will still injure and kill each other. For those who agree with this, knowing we have a people problem and not an actual gun problem, it becomes rational why we should severely limit gun access...
     
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    I don't have any prejudices?? And FYI I am a gun owner...owning five guns! And while I can whine why I don't wish to be without my guns I also know if I did not have them nothing will happen to me...I will be just fine! Now that's reality!!
     
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    That is your reality it is scarcely the majorities.
     
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    Absolute nonsense, the conclusion is wholly unsupportable.
     
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    Because your majority cannot be open-minded about this topic...
     
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    A gun cannot load itself, transport itself to someone, and shoot that person dead...this is impossible. The ONLY thing that allows a gun to do bad deeds is the human! Use some logic! The human is the problem! The human is going to kill other humans no matter what weapon they will use. If all they have is bow and arrows, they will kill with bow and arrows! As long as humans are incapable of rational restraint, and they have access to guns, they will kill each other with those guns...
     
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    No because you won't.
     
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    I am using logic. It is you who are not. If banning guns only dropped other countries homicide rated by about 1% by what logic do you believe it would drop ours more?
     
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    Almost a good idea? What is absent of the proposal?

    Noticing possible warning signs has nothing to do with knowing the name and history of the perpetrator of past mass killers.

    Even when warning signs are noticed, nothing is done about them. Nikolas Cruz demonstrated numerous warning signs of being a danger, he was reported to the authorities multiple times for a number of offenses, he was even reported to the FBI itself, and it did absolutely nothing. Everyone who was contacted concluded that Nikolas Cruz, despite his violent tendencies, simply did not pose a threat to anyone.
     
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    Well you're both running around with guns on, which is just plain weird. And is your husband afraid of being raped as well or is he afraid of something else?
     
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    You are projecting fear where none exists. Not everyone makes decisions out of fear. I certainly don’t carry a pocket knife because I fear amazon boxes or baling twine.
     
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    I doubt you know what "hard left" really means. Perhaps help me by providing a relevant political economic definition?
     
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