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The right to bare arms..... questioning the understanding.

Discussion in 'United States' started by Mr Stefan Downey, Jun 11, 2012.

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    I'm not resorting to a special pleading fallacy. I'm simply correcting your misintepretation. the right to bear arms has nothing to do with a militia. as court case after court case has proven.
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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  2. rahl

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    ????this has nothing to do with the topic?????
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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  3. danielpalos

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    Exactly my point; non sequiturs are also off topic to the premise of any argument.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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  4. danielpalos

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    Can you cite how you reached your conclusion regarding your contention of there being no such thing as a militia of the United States?
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    It has to do with our Second Amendment; but then you probably wouldn't know it due to your subscription to your propaganda and rhetoric, instead of a rational argument.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    Rahl must have some kind of disfunctional brain damage. Now he trying to protect what he thinks his right to stalk other members by making up some nonsensensical bull&*^t to cover his mistake.
    What a blustering bully. Or he is suffering from "no life" because he spends so much time trying to impose his single-mindedness on others who really don't care...and you are still off topic, child
    To pull quote...."Jane, you ignorant slut..., this is about the "personal" protected Right to Keep and bear arms or militias, not about global economics.
    Rahl, if all you do is flame other people and post nothing original, like start a new thread under the correct section, then you are a waste of creation
     
    stjames1_53, Jun 28, 2012
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  7. rahl

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    reality. there is no militia of the united states. You are delusional if you think there is
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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  8. rahl

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    no, it had exactly nothing to do with the second amendment.
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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  9. rahl

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    was this suppposed to be a joke?
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    nope....you're the joke
    You cannot stay on topic. This was about my Right to Bear arms or maybe yours not too......
     
    stjames1_53, Jun 28, 2012
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  11. rahl

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    you seem to have confused me with someone else. I have been arguing in favor of gun rights, and the second amendment throughout this entire thread.

    so it looks like the jokes on you
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    I subscribe to the rule of law, and even a law that specifically enumerates what constitutes the militia of the United States. Where do you believe our government got the power to draft? Are you also claiming our government does not have any power to draft the militia of the United States into federal service?
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    It has everything to do with our Second Amendment. Not needing a professional standing army during times of lowering Taxes and therefore not real times of war should be self-evident as a form of fiscal responsibility.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    They cant draft the militia of the united states, because no such entity exists
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    Having nothing at all to do with the second amendment
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    Yes it does, it is defined in the Constitution. That does not mean a militia has been drawn, only that it exists as defined.
     
    Hoosier8, Jun 28, 2012
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    just trawled through this entire thread and not one of them show you in favor af anything except your own opinion. Try this on for size......Militias are a States' Right. They can call up militias in the event of federal government failure and our shores can no longer be protected. How else could you protect our lands and businesses? Militias are the final call for defense, all between 18 and 45 are subject to this and because the State cannot supply arms, private ownership is crucial to that. If America were to be invaded, today, we are SOL because all of our military with any power is overseas. How the heck else are we to defend our lands and businesses against an armed invader? Under the supervision of a particular State the citizens are under control of said State and is indeed a fact that here in IN, the term "militia" is not a legal term, it is the last resort and by description, the Men who are called up are a militia.
    For further purposes read this. Even the Fed Gov refer to those between 18 and 45 to be part of the militia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Acts_of_1792. Those laws have never been rewritten.....so, if you are between 18 and 45, bubba, you are already in the militia..
    and in case you denounce that, here is a list of reading materials for you to peruse http://www.ask.com/web?q=Search+IN+...5D88F064DA94CCA45883FBA&frstpgo=&page=2&jss=1
     
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    I would like to confide in your sincerity regarding our argument, but you keep resorting to fallacy for your Cause.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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  19. rahl

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    No fallacy, just reality
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    Our Second Amendment clearly and specifically enumerates what is necessary to the security of a free State.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    Every time I see this thread- and the mispellng I think of that old bumper sticker

    "Support your Right to Arm Bears"
     
    SFJEFF, Jun 28, 2012
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    Your error is thinking that a militia has anything to do with it
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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    Our Second Amendment specifically enumerates not just any militia of the United States but a well regulated militia as being necessary to the security of a free State.
     
    danielpalos, Jun 28, 2012
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    I don't get your argument. A well regulated militia is definitely mentioned in the second amendment.
     
    Hoosier8, Jun 28, 2012
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    and as court case after court case has shown, the right to bear arms has exactly nothing to do with a militia.
     
    rahl, Jun 28, 2012
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