The right to bare arms..... questioning the understanding.

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  1. Mr Stefan Downey

    Mr Stefan Downey New Member

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    It is known throughout the world that Americans have the 'right to bare arms'.

    This has been assumed to have meant guns or weaponry in modern times. What if i was to suggest that it was in fact actual arms, meaning that when it was been drafted and sanctioned what was meant was that there would be no such punishment as sevring the arms of thieves, as it was thought that america would be of the status where if such a thing as thievery were t happen the people in charge of the situation would in fact lok into why and how it happened be it lack of money work or food and thus allowing for a fantastic society.

    hmmmmmmm?
     
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    sablegsd Banned

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    I would suggest to you that you are delusional. The right to bare arms is to defend ourselves against the type of government we have now. So look for the fireworks to start soon.
     
  3. drj90210

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    If you actually read the Federalist Papers and other supporting documents of the Bill of Rights, then it is extremely obvious that the founders were referring to firearms.
     
  4. Mr Stefan Downey

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    drj9... what if i were to suggest the supporting documents and federalist papers where made at a later date by others that weren't involved, nor understood the way the consitution was written and merely wanted to benefit from a firearms deal with the misuse of the constitution?

    as for sable gsd, capitalism is communism, no civil wars required again just a realization that some people are 'nincompoops'.
     
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    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you kiddies mean the right to BEAR arms, as to hold or carry. We have always been free to wear short sleeved shirts.
     
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    I would respond by saying that your statement is incorrect to the point of absurdity. To suggest that the Federalist Papers were written after the Bill of Rights and to suggest that they were written by people that were not involved intimately in the creation of this nation would be akin to stating that the moon is made out of Swiss cheese.
     
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    Which is one of the main reasons you are the planet laughing stock .
    But since becoming degenerate you are now regarded as very dangerous to yourselves , let alone others .
     
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    Only a folk which has the right to bare arms can be called a Free Folk.
     
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    I think women should have the same right to bare their breasts in public as men do.
     
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    I thought this thread was about wearing short-sleeved shirts.
     
  11. drj90210

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    So because we actually believe in the right to keep and bear arms, you consider us a "laughing stock." That seems extremely close-minded on your part.

    What do you mean by this sentence?
     
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    I believe it is disingenuous for gun lovers, as anarchists, to claim they are willing to do anything constructive with an unfettered right to keep and bear Arms, It is one reason our Founding Fathers specifically enumerated the reason why a well regulated militia of the People who keep and bear Arms is necessary; to the security of a free State not a free Peoples'.
     
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    So all "gun lovers" are anarchists? Very nice job taking a very immature approach to mischaracterize those that disagree with your point of view. Would you be okay with the statement, "It is disingenuous for gun haters, as communists, to claim they are willing to do anything constructive since they do not believe in the right to bear arms and self defense?" I didn't think so. Try to write something constructive next time.

    What? The 2nd Amendment clearly states the people's right to keep and bear arms is necessary to the security of a free state. It's as simple as that.
     
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    You are welcome to actually answer the question on why gun lovers, as anarchists, feel they should be exempted from State gun control (laws) which every other citizen of that same State, must follow.

    The End is clearly enumerated in that Commandment from our Founding Fathers. Why be unfaithful to our own supreme law of the land and federal Constitution of our Republic?
     
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    Small arms are insignificant from a government perspective. The arms only threaten individuals within the society, not those "controlling" it. Explosives are a threat. Most don't appreciate the genius of Nobel and the decades of chemistry and engineering that was necessary to safely prepare nitrated toluene, glycerin and cellulose.
     
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    I think the right only really took off in the 1920s with the advent of the flappers and beach goers.
     
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    Sure. I'll start when you answer why all gun haters, as communists, feel that they have the right to overlook the Bill of Rights.

    Who is advocating breaking state law here? What we are suggesting is that many state laws should be considered unconstitutional, because they are in violation of the 2nd Amendment. Following the Heller v D.C. supreme court decision, this is certainly a possibilty.

    Fine question. Why indeed do you feel it necessary to be unfaithful to the Bill of Rights?
     
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    We should all have the right to bear arms but I would rather have hulk hands

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    This is very simple.....the founders intended for us all to have a cannon and a horse to pull it in the garage, and a musket, powder, shot, and a sabre.

    Of course in those days, that's what the other guy might have to fight you with.

    So!...adjusting for our changing landscape of weaponry....we should each have a howitzer, a grenade launcher, a tank, and an aircraft carrier....Oh!...and a helicopter. I need one of those
     
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    "So!...adjusting for our changing landscape of weaponry....we should each have a howitzer, a grenade launcher, a tank, and an aircraft carrier....Oh!...and a helicopter. I need one of those"
    Goldwater

    Yes. And to think that taxpayer dollars go towards food stamps and not RPG's. I haven't received government cheese or government RPG's. Where's mine? In fact, try to build your own RPG and see what happens in the USA.
     
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    How would even a professional army be any match for the combined might, of the well regulated militia of the United States?
     
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    Heller only affirmed the natural right to acquire, posses, keep and bear forms of private property, which may include Arms. It was not a Second Amendment issue, simply because it did not involve a well regulated militia of the United States.
     
  23. dudeman

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    "How would even a professional army be any match for the combined might, of the well regulated militia of the United States?" DanielPalos

    What decade are you living in? Do you have any concept as to how many of the "combined might" are living on the government dole in 2012? My take. Shoot anything that moves when the dollar collapses. Make the US government responsible for the tragedy.
     
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    Well, I don't think you should bare arms unless your arms are toned and pretty.

    Flabby arms are NOT attractive.
     
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    Well, I don't think you should bare arms unless your arms are toned and pretty.

    Flabby arms are NOT attractive.
     

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