The Thing Scaring Me about Trump

And yet, just the other day, leftists where calling for Obama to federalize the nation's police departments.

But that was before they lost the election.

 

What part of the constitution are you referring to?

 

Well, the barrier was authorized by Congress in 2006. Hillary, Obama and Biden all voted for it, Trump is just starting construction.

Sean Spicer: We're Going to Strip Federal Grant Money from Sanctuary Cities, Withhold Visas from Countries Which Don't Accept Their Illegal Immigrants Back

I'm not sure Trump can do this by executive order rather than requiring an Act of Congress.

The Anti-Commandeering doctrine states that the federal government cannot dictate to local police forces what they must do. That "commandeers" state powers into the service of the federal government, which runs afoul of the Constitution, the 10th Amendment.

The Supreme Court decision on Obamacare said that taking away all of a state's federal medicaid subsidies if they did not expand Medicaid per the federal law's dictates would run afoul of the anti-commandeering doctrine.

The Supreme Court voided that part of Obamacare as unconstitutional.

Now some money can be withheld, the national government withheld highway funds from states that didn't go along with their 21-years-old-to-drink initiative, and they did make the 55 mph speed limit national for the period..

So you can go some distance with a withhold-some-money scheme, but too far, and the Supreme Court will strike it down.

Reducing aid to cities can be construed as a budgetary concern but you'd still need Congress to go along, and you'd still need 50 of our 52 Senators to go along, and that's a tough lift.

Might be worth trying anyway, just to flush them out and expose them to primary challenge.

Trump could also make this provision a part of his infrastructutre-spending initiative and deny this additional money to states which do not comply with federal immigration laws. But a few in the GOP will likely support Democratic initiatives to strip this provision out of the spending bill.

The anti-commandeering doctrine developed from case law.

And Medicaid funds cut-off from Obamacare was unconstitutional because the government would cut off money already authorized by law to flow to the states, and not just "new money" authorized in the bill itself, so, there's that.

But Trump probably could strip money from cities that is proposed new money, then withhold it if they don't comply.

Do we want to have to authorize new federal spending just to be able to threaten to take it away?

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You're Mexican?

 

That sounds like a well though out response, but it's well over my pay grade, and I didn't read it. Can I please have a summary?

 

What a great comparison... are you a Clinton supporters? Go Jaywalk in Chicago.

 

THE thing? A dozen or more things scare the hell out of me; not the least of which is he's delusional.

 

Fake news

 

I thought Marshall was a rapper dude. White guy from Detroit? What's does he have to do with Chicago?

 

1) Idk what the statutes are but you probably can't convict after 30 years, but you convict those you can.

2) If there is any sort of federal involvement such as block grants for sanctuary cities it needs to be terminated immediately. I would even consider restricting funding elsewhere if they didn't comply.

Besides, this is an issue where I would expect the governors, mayors, state legislatures to uniformly protect our great nation but are failing to do so.

 

Perhaps what scares you is that actual decisions and actions are taking place, rather than (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-footing around issues indefinitely- like we are used to.

If you harbored a fugitive or known criminal, you would be breaking the law. If a law enforcement or government agency does it, that can't be less of an issue; it is their sworn duty to enforce law. At a minimum, an illegal immigrant has broken federal law. Entering illegally once is a misdemeanor crime, entering again after being deported is a felony crime. For a city to tell it's law enforcement people to keep quiet about this is hardly proper and most likely is some kind of crime in itself, or at a minimum is malfeasance of office.

Martial law supersedes all existing power and gives control to a military officer- very heavy-duty kind of thing. It certainly is unrelated to the blocking of funding for such cities. It's also not what has been suggested to assist with control of the violence, primary murders. that Chicago is suffering from.

We have a major change going on here. We now have a true CEO in the executive office, he is insisting on actual results and is going to get them. That is going to rub lots of people the wrong way, particularly those who have been able to ignore their own duties and do as they pleased.

 

Article IV section 4. Would you like me to post what it says since obviously you have no idea?

 

Let's suppose we get some safe haven cities where the locals get to totally ban all abortions.

What if the safe cities decided the crips and bloods are fine upstanding citizens?

 

Nope. Just wondering if you think it's really not ok to be a criminal. Or if you ever been a criminal.

 

In most states traffic violations are still considered criminal offenses. Typically, there are three levels of these offenses: 1) infractions, or "petty" or "summary" offenses, 2) misdemeanors, and 3) felonies. The rights you have to fight a ticket, and the way they are handled in court, depend on which level of offense your state assigns to traffic violations. The consequences will also vary.
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/beat-ticket-book/chapter3-1.html

Want to try again?

 

I've been saying this for years. Let's do it. Let's have a place with no taxes too. Why not?

 

So you're defining "invasion" as... what? Unarmed people who pick fruit? C'mon guys, the constitution isn't the bible.

 

Slippery slope? WFT? Thousands of US citizens have been shot &/or killed in Chicago over the past 4 years & 2017 #'s are exceeding 2016......that's a SLIPPERY slope. The increased numbers of un-vented ME refugee's is Slippery slope. Allowing more criminals sanctuary is a SLIPPERY slope. And, stopping the slide down those slopes is called LAW & ORDER.

 

Actually you're exactly right. I voted for Hillary and for my republican congressman. I LOVE when the government doesn't work. It's the only way to ensure that government doesn't grow. You pro-government republicans sicken me. Look at you saying, "we want state's to have control" until they make a decision that you don't like. Then you want to punish them.

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So is the witch hunt mentality. You'd feel comfortable with any witch hunt that Trump or the republicans come up with, would you?

 

We are done. Youve ventured out of reality and I no longer waste time with these types of posts. The constitution isnt the bible...it's a matter of fact document that our nation is based on

 

Does this scare you too?

PANIC AT THE EPA! Trump Erasing Climate Change Data from EPA Servers.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/01/24/trump-erasing-climate-change-data-from-epa-servers/

 

Making these hell holes like Chicago safe is one of his campaign promises, so this should put all of those democratically run hell holes on high alert that they either do something themselves, or Trump will. Chicago is just number one on the list now, but there are many others that need to do a lot better.

One simple tweat from the presidential twitter account and he's got everybody knowing that something has to be done. It's a herculean task, but the stables can be cleaned. It just requires a will to do it.

 

Burning books

 

Why do you ask? Do motorists fire weapons at you when you do those things? Otherwise, your point is moot.

 

Lmao I win