THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

Everyone here is so focused on the unchangeable past. Its DONE... OVER... LEFT THE BUILDING.
If you ant to feel bad about your world, you don't have to search the past.
Let's concentrate on making the future... BETTER.
Let's start by throwing the libs out of DC.

 

No, fear of Russia is keeping Europe in NATO.

 

The only genocides in Ukraine were committed by Russia. Read your history.

 

I'm sorry that you are trapped in such a propaganda bubble.

 

I'm not 'exonerating' anything. In fact I'm fully prepared to acknowledge the 'sins' of my forefathers. The problem is though that you continually talk about the actions of 'white men' as if they were the only game in town! You insist on persistently denying moral wrongdoing by any culture that isn't European!

It may have escaped your notice but the world isn't divided into 'angels and demons'. History proves that. Your just seem willfully blind to that fact.

 

I'm not 'exonerating' anything. In fact I'm fully prepared to acknowledge the 'sins' of my forefathers. The problem is though that you continually talk about the actions of 'white men' as if they were the only game in town! You insist on persistently denying any moral wrongdoing on the part of a culture that isn't European!

It may have escaped your notice but the world isn't divided into 'angels and demons'. History proves that. You just seem willfully blind to that fact. Which BTW is your problem not mine.

 

It's you sir that is trapped inside the bubble narrative created by the ruling elites of a white supremacist world order.

 

It may have escaped your notice that this is an American forum where 99% of the topics concern America. Therefore it's largely hypocritical to sweep colonialism under the rug just because it's a subject you willfully choose to ignore.

You are attempting to diminish the negative impact colonialism has had by conflating it with feudalism, internecine wars, civil wars, tribal disputes, border disputes. These are all natural occurrences the world over and to lump in genocidal colonialism with the aforementioned is indeed at attempt to exonerate colonialism and pass it off as "something everyone does". No buddy, only megalomaniacs pursue colonialism.

It is you that brings "whiteness" into it. Imerely mentioned colonialism because that's all I need to state since everyone knows WHO that refers to, even you do apparently. That is your guilt revealing itself, I never mentioned whiteness

 

De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt...

 

That is exactly what the US wants. Keep stirring the hornets nest. NATO is a Cold War relic that should have gone away in 1992 when the Warsaw Pact ended.

 

As I said those countries should have done nothing since Russia was not a threat. Convince me Russia was a threat and maybe I'll answer the way you want me to.

 

I would have totally agreed with you long ago. In the late nineties I often wondered why NATO stayed active. Now that Russia is stretching its military muscle and invading neighboring countries, I'm sure glad it survived!

 

Lately is the key word. Today's Russia is not the same as it was in the 90's. There was a chance to help Russia become part of the European community. Keeping NATO in place didn't exactly inspire confidence in the Russians. I believe Putin was hand picked when it became clear NATO was an offensive organization when they went into Kosovo in 1999. Kosovo was not in NATO. Therefore the war posed no threat to NATO countries.

 

Today's Russi is not like it was in the 90's at all. I agree. It is weaker, its people are less committed, its military is a mere shadow of its former self. But its national goals remain the same, as it is led by a former Soviet leader whose goals and intentions remain unchanged.
NATO is an "offensive" organization??? What nation has it attacked?? Not defended... ATTACKED without provocation. I Commanded US troops in Germany and saw the battle plans we had. They were all defensive. I Commanded a nuclear capable unit in Germany and I was glad I wasn't European, though. The tactical nuclear battle plans left Europe devastated as NATO forces fell back and back.

 

Todays Russia is weaker? NATO attacked Kosovo in 1999. Kosovo was no threat to NATO. It was an internal war. No nation attacked NATO throughout the 90's.

 

This post has NOT aged well...LOL

 

Today's Russia is certainly militarily weaker by the demonstrated "Keystone Kops" operations they are conducting in Ukraine. NATO did not attack Kosovo. The European members of NATO saw the genocide and chaos in Kosovo as a threat to European stability and convinced NATO as a whole to intervene.

 

No, in your world it's divided into 'blacks and whites'.

 

There are good white folks and bad white folks.
There are good black folks and there are bad black folks.
There are good Asians and bad Asians.
There are good Hispanics and there are bad Hispanics.
The only folks you can always count on and trust are the Irish.

 

Libya for one..

 

Are we talking Irish ppl or plastic Paddy's?
If it's the former I'll concede they're a pretty good ppl compared to English and scots

 

And Kosovo. After that Yeltsin saw NATO as a threat and hand picked Putin to replace him. Putin rebuilt the military knowing this day would arrive. NATO at Russia’s front door. Ukraine is NATO trained and armed. Russia got the jump on Ukraine.

 

That's NOT an answer to the question.

To start with, the Baltics and Russia have a history. Secondly, regardless of your opinion on the matter, they felt exposed or susceptible for possible aggression from their much more powerful military neighbor and needed some way to insure their sovereignty.

So again...I'm not asking you about YOUR personal bullshit opinion about IF Russia would or wouldn't or IF they were a threat...I'm asking you what they should do to insure their sovereignty regardless.

Now. For the third time...try ACTUALLY answering the question.

 

The former Yugoslavia says "hello".

 

Oh, we have a historian in our presence! Tell us about these claimed genocides in ukraine committed by Russia. Please do. I love to hear bullshit on the weekends.