The US Plot to Exploit Venezuela

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Horhey, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    No, but I am familiar with wars of defense. Those are justifiable. Wars of aggression are not. Do you need me to explain this complex distinction further?
     
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    You said it yourself, Saudi Arabia's War.

    Since 2015, the United States has provided intelligence, military advice, and logistical support to the Saudi Arabia–led military intervention in Yemen. U.S. stated goals for this assistance are to restore the UN-recognized government of Yemen and preserve Saudi territorial integrity from incursion by Yemen-based Houthi rebels. Deepening Iranian support for the Houthi rebels has also reinforced U.S. concern for Yemen’s trajectory.

    The majority of U.S. assistance has consisted of aerial targeting assistance, intelligence sharing, and mid-flight aerial refueling for Saudi and UAE aircraft.

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-support-saudi-military-operations-yemen

    Yemen's Civil War is the worst humanitarian crisis, not the actions of Saudi Arabia. Although civilian causalities have furthered that suffering.
     
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    Saudi Arabia's war is only made possible with US support.

    Therefore, the US is complicit in one of the worst crimes in human history.

    Yet the same US is whining about "democracy" in Venezuela.

    Such risible hypocrisy is sadly par for the course.
     
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    Wrong, the war is easier with technical support. It is still very possible without it.

    The civil war is not a crime, that is the main humanity problem here.

    You just choose to ignore the linked post I made. Typical.
     
  5. Ethereal

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    Saudi Arabia's monarchy was created and is sustained almost entirely by western aid.

    The Saudi monarchy would still be riding around on camels if it weren't for western technology and money.

    So please explain how the Saudi dictators would manage to blockade an entire country using camels.

    Intentionally starving millions of innocent people is indeed a crime. And the US is complicit in it.

    Nothing in your link disproves anything I've said.
     
  6. Horhey

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    There is war only because of Saudi intervention. There is a humanitarian crisis only because of Saudi bombing and blockading. This is basic **** man. You're just now learning this. You thought it was about pirates. Now you're reaching for some way to clear Saudi Arabia when its their war.
     
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    Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
     
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    The Saudis held off for over a decade. How do you propose they stop the attacks coming out of Yemen?
     
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    Socialism is one of those catch-all labels that allows people to see the world in a simplistic, binary way. It's clear than many struggle to understand the difference between tyranny and socialism. But we do have an organized political/media effort to conflate the two.
     
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    It sounds like you are rationalizing undeclared war. You have convinced yourself that it's OK to kill innocent people if some requirements are met.
     
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    .. the west had nothing do with establishing Saudi Arabia. You should learn some history
     
  12. Texas Republican

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    Capitalist countries dependent on oil survived the downturn in oil prices better than Venezuela.

    Norway (to the left of the U.S., and far to the right of Venezuela) survived the lower oil prices without a massive exodus of its population to Sweden. And it didn’t run out of hospital supplies or toilet paper.
     
  13. Jeannette

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    Biden blasted Maduro for not accepting the humanitarian aid from Washington, even though a week before the Kurds under the direction of the US refused to allow aid from Assad to his own people in Syria - not to mention the civilians killed by the coalition's bombing.

    Here's a bit:

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    Norway's a very wealthy country that spent it's money wisely, but then again frugality and a sense of community rather than individualism is part of the Scandinavian culture. I recall in grade school a visit to a Swedish 'cooperative' super market at a time when there were no such things as supermarkets, only individual owners.

    Anyway I don't think colonizing a Scandinavian country and stealing their resources is in our playbook. As for South America, Africa and the Middle East, now that's a different story.
     
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    The downturn in oil prices were meant to destroy Russia, but it destroyed Venezuela and I think Nigeria as well but I'm not sure.
     
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    The U.S. is powerful, but I don’t think we can control the price of oil.
     
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    Through Saudi Arabia and the other Gulf States, yes we can. We did it during the Cold War as well.
     
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    Shortly after the invasion of Iraq, Zbigniew Brzezinski pointed out that:
     
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  19. Ethereal

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    Your attempt to paint Saudi war criminals and mass murderers as victims is despicable.
     
  20. Ethereal

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    The dictatorship in Saudi Arabia was created and subsequently sustained by western money and technology. Without that money and technology, the Saudi "royal" family would be living inside a tent and riding around on camels.
     

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