The US Plot to Exploit Venezuela

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  1. Starjet

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    Why is it as bodies pile up and desperation grows, so does Socialists’ excuses and finger pointing.

    So, if it’s such a socialist paradise, and the poor live like kings, WhoTF is starving and protesting in the streets?
     
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    Next, the left will be claiming the Berlin Wall was built to stop greedy capitalist from stealing the wealth from East Germany’s poor.
     
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    Reminder of the outright hypocrisy of most Americans FB_IMG_1550070847239.jpg
     
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    Damn Trump and his insidious plan to send the starving Venezuelan people food aid!
     
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    The ideological blinders of partisans do not allow any evidence to the contrary. I'm not gonna keep posting the same **** over and over again.
     
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    Good post and true.. They overlook all the good things Chavez accomplished after 40 years of the elite taking it all.. They forget Petro Caribe.. they don't know about the Batista(Cuban) owned farms and plantations that had been abandoned for decades.

    Per usual we're dealing with education by soundbite made even more popular by idiot Donald Trump.
     
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    "No nation owns their natural resources"? That's crazy.. We aren't thieves.. VZ was never prosperous.. ALL the money was concentrated around the dictator's inner circle. Trump has no education either.

    In fact... foreign oil concessions in VZ were based on a 50-50 revenue split way back to the 1940s.

    The farms and plantations were owned by Batista era Cubans who had abandoned them decades ago.. They produced NO crops..

    Education helps. Try it.
     
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    Nope. Mass starvation? Not socialism's fault. Desperate poverty? Not socialism's fault. Human despair? Not socialism's fault. It's them GD capitalists! Go figure.

    You know, the State exists to protect the free, not to enslave the rich to care for the poor.
     
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    Chavez was elected because capitalism was such a corrupt failure in VZ.
     
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    Same old song and dance, same old story. Yet...Socialism gave us Cuba, Cambodia, North Korea, and now Venezuela. Capitalism? iPhones, Computers, air conditioning, air travel, cars, television, freezers, and on, and on, and on. Yeah. You're right. Damn evil capitalists. I hate prosperity and happiness. I'd rather be starving in Venezuela than laying on Waikiki Beach in Hawaii while talking on my smart phone and laughing at the socialist in Chicago.
     
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    You don't know anything about the history of VZ.
     
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    Well, I certainly know its history of late-- it's socialist and they are starving.
     
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    Capitalism has served humanity better, much better than socialism, communism. And you have less poor under capitalism. Trouble is, some capitalists are delusional and actually believe that capitalism can make all non lazy people successful, with a surplus, a good surplus. Remove the delusions from capitalists and you will then redistribute income from capitalism to provide living standards to those that capitalism does not have a place for at any given time. Capitalism has always had plenty of poor people who were not being served by it, for whatever reason.

    Realizing what capitalism can do and cannot do is essential. Or you get a paradigm of selfish, greedy, self centered, capitalists. And as the poor grow in number, you get people thinking socialism will serve them better.
     
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    Thank you.. Capitalism isn't an automatic success.. Chavez was a great hope for a desperate Venezuela.
     
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    Socialism works, and Sweden proved it, so the socialists claim. Yet, Venezuela. What gives? Frigging American capitalist warmongers, that's the problem.

    Well, what does a real Swede say about socialism?

     
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    Repeat in front of mirror for further enlightenment.
     
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    And the plot thickens:
     
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    Honestly wouldn't it be easier for you to get a job?
     
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    Nowhere near the fun.
     
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    Why would anyone want socialism? To reap the undeserved? Well, they're reaping it in Venezuela, but do they deserve it? I mean, they did vote for Chavez, and at least once for Maduro. So, instead of reaping the undeserved, are getting what they deserve, are they reaping what they sowed? I mean, if you vote socialist, how long do you think it will take before the capitalist dog gets tired of scratching fleas, and flees?
     
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    I see we have people quoting 1984 or was that Brave New World.
     
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    Actually, it was One Brave Man.
     
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    Nope I did a search for One Brave world but the only answer was Brave New World.
     
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    You won't find in your world; it's only in my universe.
     

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